EVE General Discussion

Hello

I have started playing EVE around four months ago. Since then I try to have fun and earn some ISK at the same time and to tell the truth, I find it difficult.

I stay only in +0.7 systems, I want to earn the money for new Mackinaw, because I learned by the harsh way that AFK mining is not a smart option

How I play:
Option 1
I log in and jump to my Retriever. I choose system one jump away from Jita, farm scordite till the Ore Bay is full, sell it on Jita, and repeat.
I earn around 5,5 milion ISK per 40 minutes.
Its quite boring, I just have EVE minimalized on my bar, and when I hear "the asteroid is depleted" I just mine next one.
But at least I earn something.

Option 2
I log in and jump to my Drake. I take two level 1 security mission, and when I am back at the base after ~15 minutes I earn +150,000 ISK.
So its around ten times less than with mining.
Of course those missions are easy and my ship is not even scratched. I tried level 2 missions and they were also veery easy but rewards were not more generous. I even try to take every loot from destroyed ships but it is still less profitable then mining.
It is fun to see your ship piercing through the enemies and having seven missile launchers equiped, but I want to buy myself something new also.

Maby I am too much for PvE, and as I see EVE Online is almost all about player interacting other players. Is there any chance for me to earn money while doing something more interesting? Or everything is ok, this is just how the game looks, and only thing to change is my attitude for it?

PS. I played WoW before, maby I am just used to easy victories...

you should be doing lvl3s on a battle cruiser.

lvl1 and lvl2s are for frigs and dessies.

now, lvl 4s are currently the direct competition to mining, and they still come out short unless you fully salvage the mission or you have a HAM Tengu, or any pirate bs that can do the missions faster, but those can take you a good 3 months to train into.

i would say, don't train more than exhumers one, and mine on a skiff cherry picking the good asteroids. while you do that, train for a tengu, since i guess you already have a week or two of training in cald cruiser/frig and missiles.

bad advice and you should feel bad.

I agree with all the post above but would also say: Get away from Jita!
Find a new home somewhere in a quiet system, maybe even in an other region.
You should be able to get more ISK when you sell stuff on the marked.
Jita is just to hard a marked for a new player with your play style. Its an okay place to buy stuff but selling - No.

Do some probing.
While i was living in high i was able to earn 2bil/month playing 2h a day.
How - quite simple.
Until you don't have trained T3 place 10-15 T1 scanning frigates (0.5-0.7 SS) - scanning rigs + t1 probe launcher + sisters probes.
Next thing is your main ship (BC) - it can have a codebreaker and if possible sisters core launcher in high slot. If you cannot probe something - you dock and change to t1 frigate.

You search for a combat sites lvl 3-4 and radar sites.

In combat sites you are interested only in pirate faction spawns and escalations.
You rarely find something in other wrecks.
Combat sites/escalations are main source of income - but you have to watch on this by a monthly income.
Every week you will find some valuable faction stuff that can be worth from 5-600mil or even 2bil if you are lucky in escalation to low.

Radar sites are less valuable. But provide stable source of income.
When you get to T3 you will skip them - but you can have from them 0-50mil daily income.

Magneto/Ladar/Gravi/WH - you can skip this.

If you want some additional income - train salvaging to lvl 4 and salvage faction ( only ) wrecks from sites.

This is where you problem is when mining. Move farther from Jita... Like 20 jumps. Find a system that has a reasonable market, but where everything is still really expensive. Mine in a .6 system because there are more ore types available. Also, don't sell each ore bay full at a time. Store them up in a station, wait days or even weeks to sell and you will get significantly more ISK for your time. Hauling is a waste when you can carry more at once. Join an industrial corporation. Orca support and ore buy back programs will save you a lot of time and earn you significantly more ISK. Also, being only 1 jump from Jita is not a great idea because frankly suicide gankers tend to hang around near the more popular systems that people mine in, so stay away from systems crammed full or miners and stay at least 4 jump away from the nearest lowsec entry if you can.

There's your mining sorted.

Now for missions, I am afraid it's just dedication. You need to get good enough standing to run levels fours. Because anything short of level fours is never that profitable. You will be able to run level fours in a maximally tanked drake without too much difficulty. The only problem you will have is dealing enough damage to kill some of the hardest NPCs. That said, once you get comfortable you can swap out a tank mod or two for a Ballistic Control, or swap to HAMs and use a MWD and you will have more DPS than you need.

Hope all the above helps.

The Sisters epic that I did was "Blood Stained Stars." It was fun; lots of travel, mostly very weak rats, I did 90% of it in a frigate 2 or 3 times I had to go and find a cruiser. Bringing anything bigger than a cruiser on that one will actually be slower overall just because of all the jumps involved.

Why?

look at the numbers in the dev blog.

if the skiff wasn't a terrible idea, why are the numbers so low?