EVE General Discussion

Those stastics are some what misleading. What they really mean is that High sec gets the majoirty of the kills but there is a less kill to population rate than low and null sec.

If you look at the ship loss maps, hi sec has the most losses (probaly due to RvB and a healthy regimin of corp wars and ganking). Overall those numbers mean there are more kills in relation to the size of population of nullsec which is smaller but has a higher ratio of kills per citizens of said zones.

The truth is hi-sec has overall higher ships losses compared to nullsec because there is more overall activity in hisec.

That Dev Blog is over 2 years old. I don't think Null sec was all blue back then.

Also if you think there's no NPC kills happening in null sec, then you're dreaming.


DMC

There is immense irony in the flood of null sec tears over the perceived lack of risk/reward in high sec.

They live a life safe from the cares of the rest of Eve while they get fat and drunk drinking from the never ending passive isk fountains that permeate sov space.

You do realize us normal rank and file grunts never see a penny of that right? It goes to POS fuel, ship replacement programs for war losses and such. We don't log in in the morning and find a big windfall from the ISK fairy.

This boredom and apathy then leads to the making of Alts in search of conflict and pvp in, of all places, high sec.

Actually, I do my PvP roams in null and low sec.

Never would they look in the mirror and take their share of the blame for the state of this game and instead look to lump blame on the one place where they can actually find some intrigue and excitement, High Sec.

Right, cause obviously the people living in the completely lawless area are the ones crying for less risk. Seems legit.

When confronted with changes to sov and null , that would benefit the game greatly, that have been floated have been met with resounding floods of tears and friction.

Such as?

"Why Sariah?" you ask. "Why would they profess and desire to show concern about the well being of the game when it comes to high sec but when it comes to their painted blue care bear havens in null sec and sov to they put up so much resistance?"

There's already no concord, no gate or station guns and nobody even loses security status for shooting you. How do you propose making that more dangerous, random minefields spawning all over the place?

The answer to your questions should be very clear my fellow citizens. Its clear as day. The long term problems facing Eve dont reside in concord reaction times or Exhumer EHP numbers, they lie in the deep seated problems and issues in null and sov space.

This I can partially agree with. A lot of things in Eve are broken and need an overhaul. That includes null just as much as high. I highly doubt we're thinking of the same changes though.

The water is muddied by the spin and rhetoric by the fat cats who benefit from their safe care bear havens in null sec. Change, even for the betterment of the game, will not be tolerated in their backyard as long as it messes with their status quo. There only recourse is to launch campaigns to redirect attention towards High Sec to avoid shining the bright light on the true issues facing Eve. They do this all while they play alts that have had to go looking in high sec for adventure, excitiment and fun while their mains remain comatose in their soft care bear isk factories in sov space.

Still waiting for you to define these changes you think the null population is against or explain why exactly you think they're against them.

As we approach the CSiM 8 choices search out a candidate that understands that along with changes to High Sec there needs to be fundamental changes to null,sov and low sec to deal with the REAL issues facing this game.

I'm going to vote for James just to spite you now.

A vote for a candidate that champions the status quo in sov space and wants massive change to high sec is a vote against the better interests and well being of the game you love.

That's the opposite of the truth.

Fly safe.

-Sariah

How boring. I'd rather not if you don't mind.

Irony? No. History? Yes.

After Ghengis Khan conquered China, the Mongols[1] became soft as they were absorbed by Chinese culture, because, let's face it, no matter how comfortable your yurt is, nor how yummy your milk+mare's blood is, it's just not the same as a real bed, real food, women who bathe, clean clothes, et. al.

The same is happening in null.


[1] 'l33t PvP'ers who did their PvP'ing in the real world and not from their mother's basement against imaginary foes,

I like how everyone assumes that everyone who disagrees with them is a WoW player.

This is the *****ing that doesn't end. Yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people... started complaining not knowing what it was, but they'll be complaining forever and ever just because.. (repeat forever)

Anyways... people just need to chill and enjoy the game their way, and figure out how to improve on that, without worrying about what everyone else does... hell, if I'm understanding right, null sec are by far the richest guys anyways, aren't they, short of groups like SOMER Blink? So don't they get rewarded for their extra risk? Or maybe that's the problem. The grunts never get to see any of that so they don't realize it beyond their massive cap fleets they blow a lot of their funding on to keep competitive so it feels like they get no reward in the end? Don't know the politics of it, but wouldn't surprise me I guess.



Funny... I don't see anything different about this community compared to any other MMO's. Just different subject material they're concerned about. Which isn't unexpected since they're different games with different features.

Funny... I don't see anything different about this community compared to any other MMO's. Just different subject material they're concerned about. Which isn't unexpected since they're different games with different features.

That would be the internet as a whole.. it just seems like WoW is a big source of them because so many have played it. In the end, the majority of EVE has played it. Even those who claim otherwise out of embarassment, peer pressure, whatever. Its not really worth considering as a factor beyond being competition on so relatively minor level as any other subscription MMO is (because ultimately, for the majority? There can be only one). For X-Box Live, that's primarily because of easy mic access compared to computers really. SA, all I've really seen of their dark side was some Fanfest 2012 videos.

Actually, it does.

I find something fundamentally wrong with playing an MMO to avoid interaction with other people and with being capable of enjoying Baby's First MMO™ by Fisher-Price above the age of 8.


Yes it does, and vampires don't ******* sparkle! If I ran the government Twilight would be reclassified as a hate crime and Stephenie Meyer would be imprisoned for that and being an "author" who can't spell her own name.