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Bendonni Narri
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-02-15 21:40:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Bendonni Narri
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Emile Belfleur wrote:
The audience, for lack of a better term, is likewise usually an unruly crowd of similarly unkempt and excessively inebriated half-savages prone to random misdemeanors, heinous amounts of littering and generally disgraceful behavior.


And who is the Federation allied with, again?


Give it a rest, we're all tired of your insane ramblings about the Matari, Ms. Nefantar.

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Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#22 - 2013-02-15 21:57:36 UTC
The SDII obviously wanted to save the audience from the gods-awful music.
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2013-02-15 22:21:30 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:

And who is the Federation allied with, again?


The Murientor called. They want their strawman back.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-02-16 00:15:24 UTC
It certainly will be interesting to see how it is explained that this rock concert was a grave threat to Federal Security requiring SDII intervention. Perhaps the band had too many subversive lyrics for Blaque's tastes.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Thoun Gaterau
Federal Intelligence Office
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-02-16 00:41:35 UTC
That which was made public via the actions of SDII is all that will be released. Questions can be diverted to my mailbox, however they are likely not to be answered at this time.

Silas Vitalia wrote:
I suspect it was Midna Lyre, whom is still selling quite well last I had heard. Billions of albums, actually.


The young lady in question is free to practice as she pleases, so long as she stays in line with Federal Law. She's hardly controversial any more given some of the acts that have surfaced since.

Grideris wrote:
Can I be the first to say what? The Black Eagles? Crashing a rock concert?

I hope there's a damn good reason for it. Not that we're likely to find out for a while yet. And more so, why did they do something so overt? Just doesn't seem right for them.


Needs must.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
It certainly will be interesting to see how it is explained that this rock concert was a grave threat to Federal Security requiring SDII intervention. Perhaps the band had too many subversive lyrics for Blaque's tastes.


Perhaps you should think with your head rather than your derriere before opening your all too fast and non too clever mouth.
Yoma Karima
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-02-16 00:53:29 UTC
Just a posible update but curently in Dust the Bunnies are all being hired out by the Federal Intelligence Office and a group called the Villore Spec OPS. This may have something to do with the raid but am not sure.

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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#27 - 2013-02-16 01:31:07 UTC
Thoun Gaterau wrote:

Perhaps you should think with your head rather than your derriere before opening your all too fast and non too clever mouth.


I thought managing the amazing and frankly, remarkable feat of inserting ones own head up ones own delicate Gallentean derriere was a Black Eagle specialty?

It is the only explanation I have as to how you must manage to be both blind to the supposed laws and ideals of the Federation while at the same regurgitating crap.

So, when's the media suppression order going to come down from up on high on this matter in the name of National Security, Mr. Gaterau?

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-02-16 02:13:05 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
I thought managing the amazing and frankly, remarkable feat of inserting ones own head up ones own delicate Gallentean derriere was a Black Eagle specialty?

I'd have to agree in this case - stuffing your heads up your behinds isn't a State talent. The Caldari who frequent this forum are far better at cramming their feet into their mouths.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
It is the only explanation I have as to how you must manage to be both blind to the supposed laws and ideals of the Federation while at the same regurgitating crap.

So, when's the media suppression order going to come down from up on high on this matter in the name of National Security, Mr. Gaterau?

The SDII was approved by the Senate, its legality backed by the Supreme Court. It operates under legislative, executive and judicial oversight. In terms of legitimacy it has a lot more going for it than the CPD.

Of course, if the State hadn't sparked an unprovoked war with the Federation, such measures might not be neccessary in the first place, no?

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Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#29 - 2013-02-16 02:22:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores
Admittedly, the SDII does have legitimacy for as long as the executive order that created it is not challenged. It can be removed instantaneously and (the important bit) bloodlessly, in theory. The Provists, on the other hand, exist independently of Chief Executive Panel approval.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#30 - 2013-02-16 02:25:04 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

The SDII was approved by the Senate, its legality backed by the Supreme Court. It operates under legislative, executive and judicial oversight. In terms of legitimacy it has a lot more going for it than the CPD.

Of course, if the State hadn't sparked an unprovoked war with the Federation, such measures might not be neccessary in the first place, no?


Despite my distaste for Heth and the CPD, it WAS a result of overwhelming public support and Heth was elected by the Mega corporation's corporate Boards to the head of the State. Its not exactly like your process in the Federation, but its hardly an illegit take over (sadly, for legality and honor sake).

As for an unprovoked war. Some might consider the word of a certain Grand Admiral and the murder of hundreds of thousands of Caldari citizens and a prominent CEO enough to do the trick. Then again, few people will ever acknowledge a casus belli for their enemy.

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Emile Belfleur
Solar Zouaves
#31 - 2013-02-16 02:33:35 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
What a absurd theory, for such things you have normal police not a governmental security and intelligence force and this rock concert was on a special mega-arena that was created for such events.

You are absolutely correct, Captain Lanate. This should have been handled by local police.

Then again, so should every crime and disturbance, everywhere within the Federation.
Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-02-16 02:44:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Sepherim
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
I thought managing the amazing and frankly, remarkable feat of inserting ones own head up ones own delicate Gallentean derriere was a Black Eagle specialty?

I'd have to agree in this case - stuffing your heads up your behinds isn't a State talent. The Caldari who frequent this forum are far better at cramming their feet into their mouths.


Now isn't it nice to see that it isn't an amarrian and a minmatarr the ones saying nicities to eachother for once!

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James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#33 - 2013-02-16 03:20:01 UTC
Uninformed speculation regarding the actions of SDII in this matter are pointless.

Andreus Ixiris wrote:
The SDII would not have acted upon this without rationale. Some scurrilous individuals who shall remain nameless might question their motivations, but if they had probable cause their actions were perfectly legitimate under current Federal legislature.

Andreus is correct, while we may not know, at this time what motivated the "action", I am confident that it was necessary and proper to maintain public safety.

Emile Belfleur wrote:
I have witnessed this kind of event two or three times during my school days, and like so much else in our Federation, the word "concert" is a misnomer here. A concert implies actual musicians putting on an actual music performance. This sort of event, on the contrary, tends to involve a handful of slouchy, unkempt clowns amusing themselves on a stage with lights, smoke and seemingly random (but always uncomfortably loud) sounds. The audience, for lack of a better term, is likewise usually an unruly crowd of similarly unkempt and excessively inebriated half-savages prone to random misdemeanors, heinous amounts of littering and generally disgraceful behavior.

All in all, this was probably shut down because the neighbors complained.

I can't say I disagree with your sentiment Msr. Belfeur, related to "elements" within our population, but I a confident that something significant was... avoided.

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Ollie Rundle
#34 - 2013-02-16 03:23:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ollie Rundle
Yoma Karima wrote:
Just a posible update but curently in Dust the Bunnies are all being hired out by the Federal Intelligence Office and a group called the Villore Spec OPS. This may have something to do with the raid but am not sure.

Source: Federal Administration Archives wrote:
Villore Sec Ops

In the wake of the infamous Elarel massacre, the Quafe megacorporation, hugely embarrassed by the incident, dismissed almost the entire upper echelon of its security division. These men and women promptly formed their own private security company and, forced into taking jobs most would not by the taint of their failure at Elarel, rapidly gained a reputation for absolute ruthlessness and total dedication to getting results for those giving them contracts. The board of Villore Sec Ops now presides over one of the most important mercenary contracting organizations operating in Gallente space.

What systems/planets are they hiring in, Yoma?
Sakura Nihil
Faded Light
#35 - 2013-02-16 03:58:23 UTC
Someone's transparent clothing was apparently a bit too transparent.

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-02-16 04:15:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Grideris
Sakura Nihil wrote:
Someone's transparent clothing was apparently a bit too transparent.

Think of the children!


I don't think so. If that was the problem, I would have thought they would be more transparent about the whole issue.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#37 - 2013-02-16 09:15:40 UTC
Emile Belfleur wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
What a absurd theory, for such things you have normal police not a governmental security and intelligence force and this rock concert was on a special mega-arena that was created for such events.

You are absolutely correct, Captain Lanate. This should have been handled by local police.

Then again, so should every crime and disturbance, everywhere within the Federation.

I think you misunderstood me, it should if it was the case but the concert was i a designed area so noises and stuff wasn't an issue, the Black Eagles raid ment there was more beyond that or they just got wrong inel.

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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2013-02-16 10:33:02 UTC
The only reason for the Eagles to launch a raid during the actual concert rather than after, in privacy and secrecy, significantly narrows the possibilities of what was involved.

Simon Louvaki wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

The SDII was approved by the Senate, its legality backed by the Supreme Court. It operates under legislative, executive and judicial oversight. In terms of legitimacy it has a lot more going for it than the CPD.

Of course, if the State hadn't sparked an unprovoked war with the Federation, such measures might not be neccessary in the first place, no?


Despite my distaste for Heth and the CPD, it WAS a result of overwhelming public support and Heth was elected by the Mega corporation's corporate Boards to the head of the State. Its not exactly like your process in the Federation, but its hardly an illegit take over (sadly, for legality and honor sake).

As for an unprovoked war. Some might consider the word of a certain Grand Admiral and the murder of hundreds of thousands of Caldari citizens and a prominent CEO enough to do the trick. Then again, few people will ever acknowledge a casus belli for their enemy.


I thought that admiral was called rogue by the Navy after the incident ?
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#39 - 2013-02-16 10:49:13 UTC
Or was it just a dead fly landing in a automatic typewriter causing the wrong name to get printed on their hit lists, causing the Messengers of Freedom™ to accidentally go after off the wrong person?

I am still amused at the gap between how they see themselves and how everyone else sees them ... but to be fair I suppose the same is true of every nation.

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Vieve Tisserand
Omerta Syndicate
#40 - 2013-02-16 10:57:49 UTC
This seems a strangely obvious and open operation for an organization who seems to pride itself upon clandestine efforts.

One might wonder if it is a magician's spectacle that we are supposed to watch while the trick happens right under our noses.