Intergalactic Summit

What can I say? Truth hurts.

Then your brain must be very comfortable place indeed.

The irony of that statement coming from someone like you is pretty staggering.

This is a very commonly seen psychological condition called "Stockholm syndrome" in which a victim of constant abuse (physical or emotional) begins to identify and sympathise with their abuser.

Yes, it's an outlier incident. Implying that it's anything other than this is falsehood - I'm very familiar with Ammatar telling lies about their former fellows. I've experienced years of it, all the way back to Scagga Laebotrovo's scurrilous claims about various aspects of the Minmatar Republic being repeatedly shown to be flagrantly and knowingly inaccurate.

You're a terrible liar with some very clear and very serious psychological difficulties.

I lived there for four years, mister Ixiris. I linked Gallente news reports showing it to be widespread. Even mister Karhisen was harassed during the parade, both for his Ammatar origin and his faith.

I am not lying.

I think you're delusional. You should get help.


By capsuleers. The fact that you're honestly trying to pretend that a specific group of strongly opinionated capsuleers is representative of the Minmatar populace in general is pretty illustrative of how duplicitous you are. As for the news articles you linked, the vast majority of that violence can be laid squarely at the feet of the 24th Imperial Crusade, which caused influxes of refugees from the contested regions, fearing for their freedoms - yet more problems caused by the empire you were emotionally coerced into serving.

Honestly, the fact that you're so desperately defending them despite their self-evident guilt is becoming pathetic.


Yes you are. I'm not really judging you for it, though, because I know you can't really help it.

Coming from you, those words might have had some barb behind them once upon a time, but to be honest, there's not very much other than pity that I can feel for you either, Aldrith. You and the Knighthood of the Merciful Crown used to stand for something different than PIE. You used to be a reformer, a thinker. Now you're just another face in the crowd. In fact, what's happened to the Imperial loyalist crowd anyway? Where's the Knighthood? The Aegis Militia? The Ordos? You've all become one corporation with no differentiation from each other whatsoever, and half of you have nothing to say at all. The Federation's loyalists have more spine and more conviction than you.

Your arguments ring as hollow as Samira's. I don't think the Republic is perfect, but almost every problem Amarrians and their various emotionally-disturbed puppets ever point out is steeped in delibrate misinterpretation and cultural imperialism. For some of you it's an ingrained response due to years of psychological abuse, but for others, it's a little more insidious - you know you're lying, but you do it anyway.

When I look at Ammatar and the various pet races the Amarr keep around as second-class citizens I feel this kind of nauseous pity inside, like I'm watching a furrier with a cut in its tail, gnawing at it miserably and making hoarse noises of discomfort.

My daughter once witnessed me in heated debate with a fellow academic about some frivolous topic that bore no chance of us coming to an agreement. Once she and I had parted ways with no common conclusion she (my daughter) approached me, shaking her head slightly and looked me in the eye and said 'Dad, don't feed the trolls'.

You presume to know so much, even about me, Mr. Ixiris.

If you must know I closed the Knighthood because I grew sick of war, politics and most of all having to deal with sociopathic spaceship demigods all the time. I retired to tend to my family and to perhaps get back into writing so that I might move my society through art rather than laser shots, but that blissful four months of peace was cut short. A small group of Minmatar terrorists sought it fit to judge my wife and I for our involvement in the Crusade and made an attempt on our family. I personally killed three of them in the light of the flames emanating from our home, with my son screaming in the distance. Something broke in me that day, and I realized that not only would I never be free of the curse of being a capsuleer, but my nation would also never be free of the curse of the Minmatar. I do not tell you this to gain your sympathy, it is simply what happened.

I have to agree with you on one thing, Mr. Ixiris: the Empire never should have enslaved the Minmatar. Those True Amarr who first found them should have simply left them well enough alone. Fortify the border, and never let them in. But what is done is done and here we are, locked in a war fueled by past sins and undying hatred. I do know one thing though, for whatever mistakes the Empire made in the past, it had begun to try to fix them. Emperor Heideran was a great man, and he knew what the Empire needed to do after the rebellion. Doriam would have carried on his legacy, but his life was cut short. Then there was that vile thing that will not be named, and now we have the mysterious Empress Jamyl. She's freed more slaves than any other who has worn the Imperial crown ever, I believe. She also declared a new reclaiming. What are we to make of this?

To counter your assumption, I am still a reformer. Slavery is not what it was when the my people were under it; it has become entirely too ugly in the modern era. Holders have grown fat and dependent upon slaves and the slaves have grown arguably even more savage and violent than when they were first taken. I think it should end, and the Empress has said that as well. I do not need to fear the reproaches of any other Amarrian. This is a unique time in the Empire, and I think people should let it carry on uninhibited. Then you get people who want to kill us all just because and, well... the people who do not want slavery to end gain traction.

You seem to think that everything is so simple, Andreus. Just because I wear a PIE uniform I am no longer a decent person. Just because someone once wore a chain willingly they are sad and pitiful. Just because one nation enslaves another, the oppressed nation is made of saints.

Nothing is that simple Andreus, and your black-and-white vision is wearing extremely thin. We are not all brainwashed, sad little liars. And if we are, welcome to the club.