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Abandoning swarm of drones at gate-official statement?
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Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries
Forgers United
#1 - 2013-02-15 14:10:26 UTC
Greetings.
I would like to ask the community but mainly the GM's, if abandoning 100-200 cheap drones around low sec gate is an exploit or not?

I submitted petition with specific system and specific alliance/corps doing that, but response I received said:
'We'll investigate and take action as appropriate according to the EVE Online End Users License Agreement and Terms of Service. Please bear in mind that any action that may or may not be taken against any reported pilot may not be discussed with a third party.' I would like to state I dont want to discuss the petition, but I really wonder if its an exploit or not, since the response from GM basically did not state YES neither NO.

Please keep this serious, I did not loose any ship to this, I am not whining, I lived more than 50% of my eve live in 0.0 as well as low sec etc-no trolls and offences please.

I just think this game tactic should be treated as an exploited, as it causes server lag and its very dishonest. Skilled players know how to decloak a ship even without popping drones everywhere.

tl;dr Is abandoning load of drones at gate an exploit or not? Should it be reported or no?
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-02-15 14:13:08 UTC
USES SEARCH!

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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#3 - 2013-02-15 14:26:07 UTC  |  Edited by: IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Whether it is or isn't an exploit doesn't really matter, just comes down to who answers the petition as there doesn't seem to be a consensus.

If someone you don't like does it: Report it and hope whoever answers the petition sides with you.

If you want to do it: Go for it and hope that whoever answers the petition sides with you.
Skorpynekomimi
#4 - 2013-02-15 14:49:32 UTC
IIRC, it WAS declared that piles of junk around lowsec gates to decloak you was an exploit, at one point.

Economic PVP
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries
Forgers United
#5 - 2013-02-15 14:51:56 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
IIRC, it WAS declared that piles of junk around lowsec gates to decloak you was an exploit, at one point.

I think so as well, but cant find it anywhere official. Sad
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-02-15 14:54:33 UTC
Zakarumit CZ wrote:
I just think this game tactic should be treated as an exploited, as it causes server lag and its very dishonest.


Which Eve is all about.

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Officer Nyota Uhura
#7 - 2013-02-15 14:54:50 UTC
So... what did you lose? Maybe you should learn how to cope outside hi-sec before venturing into low and null. That way you wouldn't need to come here to whine about your loss...
Mag's
Azn Empire
#8 - 2013-02-15 15:01:25 UTC
Last I heard was if it caused lag, then it was an exploit. But it really depends upon the GM you get and how many drones there are.

There doesn't seem to be a fixed rule about this. AFAIK

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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#9 - 2013-02-15 15:04:26 UTC  |  Edited by: IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Edit, What he said ^

Skorpynekomimi wrote:
IIRC, it WAS declared that piles of junk around lowsec gates to decloak you was an exploit, at one point.


I can't post petition responses as per forum rules but my experience has only ever been that it was not an exploit. Although I've heard of many cases where it was deemed an exploit. I've also heard of a clause that said it was fine up until the point where it caused lag, which is impossibly vague.


TL;DR throw the dice and hope for the best.
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#10 - 2013-02-15 15:05:41 UTC
if folks are doing to cause lag then its an exploit but i see no problme with useing them to decloak folks trying to escape a campe, think its a pretty dam good idea. although i would rather see some sort of dedicated ship module or ship that specialises in decloaking ships
Lexmana
#11 - 2013-02-15 15:05:51 UTC
I am pretty sure it is not an exploit as long it is not done to cause lag.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#12 - 2013-02-15 15:23:57 UTC
The forum 'search' thing is there for a reason.

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Shirley Serious
Gutter Press
#13 - 2013-02-15 15:43:34 UTC
Officer Nyota Uhura wrote:
So... what did you lose? Maybe you should learn how to cope outside hi-sec before venturing into low and null. That way you wouldn't need to come here to whine about your loss...


How would he learn how to cope in low/null sec, without leaving highsec ?

or is this one of those Zen things ?

Just the facts.
Jaden Li
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-02-15 15:53:50 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
USES SEARCH!


lol....I think I've started something here...
Othran
Route One
#15 - 2013-02-15 17:03:03 UTC
Its not an exploit.

Nor is anchoring 200+ bubbles which causes WAY more client-side lag.

As long as you are doing it for (and I quote) "a strategic reason" then its fine.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#16 - 2013-02-15 17:05:38 UTC
Awww...Someones cloaky hauler gotted decloaked and shotted.

Show us on the ship doll where the bad lowsec men touched your Viator.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Shamus O'Reilly
Candy Cabal
#17 - 2013-02-15 18:13:19 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Last I heard was if it caused lag, then it was an exploit. But it really depends upon the GM you get and how many drones there are.

There doesn't seem to be a fixed rule about this. AFAIK

Last i heard if it force decloaks you upon entry and is NOT a piloted ship it is considered exploit. This involves canspams and the such. Doesnt matter to me though. If it is pew it is pew to me Smile

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#18 - 2013-02-15 18:22:18 UTC
It's a grey area, which means you might get out fine or you end up with a hammer to the back of your head.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Wodensun
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-02-15 18:24:31 UTC
INb4LOCK

Posting GM correspondence on eve-o forums is not allowed.

Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident...
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#20 - 2013-02-15 18:28:42 UTC
Well, they outlawed can art at gates because of lag and so on, dunno why this wouldn't be considered the same thing if it is lag inducing.
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