Intergalactic Summit

While I understand the point you are trying to make, Ludwigus, you are speaking outside of your element and from an outsider's justification standpoint.

My own personal feelings regarding the Empire's institution of slavery aside, there are a number of differences between employment and slavery as institutionalized between the Empire and the State. Furthermore, you will find that a great many Achura will not only vehemently oppose your assertion that they are exploited within the State but be able to prove so.

While it is true that the demands on corporate workers within the State can be rigorous and difficult, corporate employees are not bred for a specific purpose, are not deadlocked into a specific purpose and are not denied advancement (either vertical or horizontal) based on the expectations of a single Holder or overseer. There is a level of flexibility in choosing one's course and path, as well as the ability to change one's direction at one's own discretion that slaves within the Empire do not possess.

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I should accuse you of the same outsiders' view, Mr. Khross. You fail to take into account the slaves that prove themselves able. Some of our brightest academic and religious minds are drawn from the ranks of slaves. There are slaves with more education and freedom of movement than even some True Amarr by their own merit. I think your view of the slave-master relationship is very rigid and is tainted by Gallente propaganda.

But all the same, I am glad we could keep this civil and talk like adults rather than some of the usual mudslinging that hounds this topic. And I thank you and Ms. Scherezad for that.

Speaking as a (Saisio raised) Achur, I cannot say I feel greatly "exploited" by the State, save for being sold a lot of quasi-shoddy SuVee products during the course of my upbringing. We are, for the most part, left alone, excepting those that do not wish to be.

In regard the slavery being akin to low level employment... Well, I could dispute your assertion in a very cold, logical manner - By pointing out that Slavery is much less efficient economically by the virtue of it's overbearing nature - But I'll go for the more obvious approach.

Your arguement is that being pushed into work by ones circumstances is literally no different then slavery. While you are correct that many unfortunate people don't have a great deal of practical choices that they could make comfortably, the difference is that they do still have those choices. For all the obligations of family, duty, honor, or a simple need to put food on the table might keep them there, they could still make the concious choice to throw caution to the wind and run off into the metaphorical woods. (Or the literal ones, I suppose.)

Of course, that will almost never happen, realistically, but that doesn't defeat the distinction. In fact, your definition of slavery would essentially make the term itself quite redundant. We are, in a sense, all held in bonds, of some kind or another.

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Which of those Facts are you claiming to be wrong ?

That the Minmatar existed on a mere handful of planets ?

Or that they are spread across many planets ?

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The slaves often get on quite alright when left alone to their work too. Just that, like the corporate employee, his work isn't to advance his own affairs, but his masters, and he is content to feel productive. Just like any other working relationship out there it need not be overbearing but people have a particularly mean holder in their head when they think of the institution of slavery. Galentean holoreels I guess.



Quite right! That is pretty close to what I'm getting at. Every culture has its beholden and its holders. You need them to attain the level of economic advancement we all have. The difference is in who makes up the underclass, that others look to their own kind for their toilers and we had the happy accident of wars with many prisoners.

What is now Republic territory largely consists of systems first colonised by the Empire.

I don't think that it's unreasonable for me to say that the Republic owes the Empire quite a bit of rent for all that real estate.

Don't hold your breath. They can't even clothe their populace.