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James 315 - An Apology and an Appeal
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Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#241 - 2013-02-15 05:54:00 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Joran Dravius wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Joran Dravius wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Awoxing belongs in the realm of nullsec supercap fleets. Ganking belongs no where, since it means you're defying the GAME MECHANICS.

Gankers are not defying the game mechanics. The game mechanics are specifically designed to allow ganking to happen. This isn't a WoW PvE server.

Perhaps it should be.

EVE is dying. Obviously with alphaganking, simply making concord even faster (they're already invulnerable) isn't going to cut it, so let's just cut to the chase and cut the gankers out of highsec.

Eve is not dying. The population is continuing to rise, as it always has. Check the all time weekly average. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility It took a slight dip and is now on its way up again. Look at the past year. It's higher now than it was a year ago. Past 6 months? Same. Every chart shows growth. STFU unless you're going to say something that isn't complete fiction.

My my.

EVEO, want to defend your views which I have seen espoused here so frequently? As a goon it is not possible for anyone to trust me to carry your argument for you without somehow trying to get a metagame advantage from it.

Carry my argument for me? You were just saying you wanted gankers removed because Eve is "dying" and I replied because I didn't notice it was posted by the idiot brigade. If I had it my way Eve would go back to how it was when I started. Concord would be killable and escapable. I'd remove jump drives to keep freighters full of goodies from teleporting past gate camps while I was at it.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#242 - 2013-02-15 05:54:13 UTC
Sir Diablos wrote:
If he truly loved Eve Online, he would not run for CSM. While I don't disagree with some of his methods, he is far from balanced in my opinion, and represents not hisec interests in truth.

Highsec is full of bot-aspirant afking highsec miners.

Yes, I'd say he's quite against their interests.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#243 - 2013-02-15 05:55:11 UTC
Joran Dravius wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
My my.

EVEO, want to defend your views which I have seen espoused here so frequently? As a goon it is not possible for anyone to trust me to carry your argument for you without somehow trying to get a metagame advantage from it.

Carry my argument for me? You were just saying you wanted gankers removed because Eve is "dying" and I replied because I didn't notice it was posted by the idiot brigade. If I had it my way Eve would go back to how it was when I started. Concord would be killable and escapable. I'd remove jump drives to keep freighters full of goodies from teleporting past gate camps while I was at it.

You missed the irony and sarcasm tags.

Welp. Op failure. 50 FKP minus (freighter kill points)

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#244 - 2013-02-15 05:55:27 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
EVE is dying. Obviously with alphaganking, simply making concord even faster (they're already invulnerable) isn't going to cut it, so let's just cut to the chase and cut the gankers out of highsec.

What if CONCORD got all "Minority Report" on the gankers... You press F1 and before your guns fire some CONCORD death ray just blasts your ****. I think that would make EVE a much happier place.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#245 - 2013-02-15 05:57:59 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
EVE is dying. Obviously with alphaganking, simply making concord even faster (they're already invulnerable) isn't going to cut it, so let's just cut to the chase and cut the gankers out of highsec.

What if CONCORD got all "Minority Report" on the gankers... You press F1 and before your guns fire some CONCORD death ray just blasts your ****. I think that would make EVE a much happier place.

Yes. Basically.

Concord actually already exploded and podded you, you just didn't know it until you pressed F1.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#246 - 2013-02-15 05:59:18 UTC
Joran Dravius wrote:

Carry my argument for me? You were just saying you wanted gankers removed because Eve is "dying" and I replied because I didn't notice it was posted by the idiot brigade. If I had it my way Eve would go back to how it was when I started. Concord would be killable and escapable. I'd remove jump drives to keep freighters full of goodies from teleporting past gate camps while I was at it.


The game grows because things like that were balanced out of the game. Carebears and mixed playstyles are allowing the game to grow but misguided players want to cut that away. For shame. Ganker mouth breather, for shame.


Dont let these null sec masters of deception and misinformation lead you around by the nose. Who will you gank when there is no one left to gank?

Puppet Masters at work. The dogs are hunting. Juice is a source of sugar. Do your homework.

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#247 - 2013-02-15 05:59:27 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
blah blah blah Trammel blah blah blah.


Quiet you Straight


Sorry Miss. I just can never figure out which threads are for the trolls only and which are not. That post from last week about "where do I troll now" kinda got me all confused.

Please forgive me!

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Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#248 - 2013-02-15 05:59:45 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
EVE is dying. Obviously with alphaganking, simply making concord even faster (they're already invulnerable) isn't going to cut it, so let's just cut to the chase and cut the gankers out of highsec.

What if CONCORD got all "Minority Report" on the gankers... You press F1 and before your guns fire some CONCORD death ray just blasts your ****. I think that would make EVE a much happier place.

I agree, but only if you press F1 with a mining laser equipped.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#249 - 2013-02-15 06:01:59 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Yes. Basically.

Concord actually already exploded and podded you, you just didn't know it until you pressed F1.

Holy ****, I haven't seen that movie since it came out on VHS... /thread

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#250 - 2013-02-15 06:02:49 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Null Sec is full of bot-aspirant afking nullsec miners.

Yes, I'd say he's quite against their interests.


I fixed it for you in the interests of accuracy and fairness.

Hypocrisy is the calling card of the null sec minions.

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#251 - 2013-02-15 06:07:17 UTC
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#252 - 2013-02-15 06:08:57 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
Joran Dravius wrote:

Carry my argument for me? You were just saying you wanted gankers removed because Eve is "dying" and I replied because I didn't notice it was posted by the idiot brigade. If I had it my way Eve would go back to how it was when I started. Concord would be killable and escapable. I'd remove jump drives to keep freighters full of goodies from teleporting past gate camps while I was at it.

The game grows because things like that were balanced out of the game. Carebears and mixed playstyles are allowing the game to grow but misguided players want to cut that away. For shame. Ganker mouth breather, for shame.

Dont let these null sec masters of deception and misinformation lead you around by the nose. Who will you gank when there is no one left to gank?

Puppet Masters at work. The dogs are hunting. Juice is a source of sugar. Do your homework.

Exactly. If we reduce the ability to gank, awox and otherwise harm people in highsec, EVE Online will grow stronger.

To a safer, brighter highsec ! To a growing EVE Online !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#253 - 2013-02-15 06:13:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Sariah Kion
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
Joran Dravius wrote:

Carry my argument for me? You were just saying you wanted gankers removed because Eve is "dying" and I replied because I didn't notice it was posted by the idiot brigade. If I had it my way Eve would go back to how it was when I started. Concord would be killable and escapable. I'd remove jump drives to keep freighters full of goodies from teleporting past gate camps while I was at it.

The game grows because things like that were balanced out of the game. Carebears and mixed playstyles are allowing the game to grow but misguided players want to cut that away. For shame. Ganker mouth breather, for shame.

Dont let these null sec masters of deception and misinformation lead you around by the nose. Who will you gank when there is no one left to gank?

Puppet Masters at work. The dogs are hunting. Juice is a source of sugar. Do your homework.

Exactly. If we reduce the ability to gank, awox and otherwise harm people in highsec, EVE Online will grow stronger.

To a safer, brighter highsec ! To a growing EVE Online !


Maybe high sec will achieve the levels of safeness that null sec enjoys one day.

care bare risk aversion meter

High Sec: Medium Risk Aversion Levels. Medium Rewards for medium risk. Carebear level: High
Null Sec: Very High Risk Aversion Levels. Much reward for little risk. Carebear Level: High

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#254 - 2013-02-15 06:17:17 UTC
It's outrageous that nullsec, which does not rely on NPC protection, is able to make themselves safer than people in highsec.

CONCORD clearly needs to step up their game, if all this crap is going on and they are less efficient at stopping it than a bunch of anti-social tryhard speglords in nullsec.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#255 - 2013-02-15 06:20:18 UTC
Seriously, the truth about this thread topic.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#256 - 2013-02-15 06:22:37 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
It's outrageous that nullsec, which does not rely on NPC protection, is able to make themselves safer than people in highsec.

CONCORD clearly needs to step up their game, if all this crap is going on and they are less efficient at stopping it than a bunch of anti-social tryhard speglords in nullsec.


Nobody wants to risk their isk fountains in the vast blue tinged opium dens of null sec.

Turn the attention towards high sec instead of fixing their player caused stagnation of pvp in null sec.



grapefruit circumcision. A tree half fallen in the forest. Nicki Minaj.

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]
Fluffy Sheep
Contra Operative Knights
#257 - 2013-02-15 06:22:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Fluffy Sheep
Vaeliel wrote:
Part 2

They removed 90% of the risk, removed 90% of the penalties for death, and added a ton of carebear focused features. The population became selfish and entitled, risk-averse, entirely focused on a carebear grind so they could buy a house and display their shiny 2D pixels on the front porch.

Felucca was the old world, open PVP and no rules. It was a wasteland. The pecking order was gone, the rewards for being in Felucca were minimal. Origin Systems, under the heel of EA Games, had catered to the carebears with gusto. In short, there was no reason to play anymore unless you enjoyed a slow grind for very little reason. It was the first step for the industry toward WoW themepark-style MMOs. The very game that in closed beta allowed creator Richard Garriot's character to be cooked alive in a wall of flames during a speech (http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Killing_Lord_British), had descended into a carebear hell of endless grind with no risk or final goal.



Wait, so the productive carebear players lived in a plentiful land with other players which is a "hell" and the PVP players who didn't produce anything ended up in a barren wasteland with no other players but themselves?... And the carebears were selfish and entitled?... the carebears being the ones who were actually on a server with other people?

ROFLOL

:D
Kayle Tsuruomo
Perkone
Caldari State
#258 - 2013-02-15 06:23:54 UTC
Get rid of faction police shooting at players because they've lost sec status while PvPing in low sec. Gets annoying having to make an alt because you PvPed in a PvP area and got punished for it via faction police. Its even more annoying when you get war dec'd and dont stand a chance against anyone in high sec with police attacking you.
Agent Trask
Doomheim
#259 - 2013-02-15 06:28:35 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:


If you're taking a dump while mining, you are afk mining, afk means away from keyboard, sitting on the pan is away from keyboard, unless of course you play on a laptop and take it with you.


The idea that one should have to stop the entire game just to take a leak is silly. To be punished for natural body functions is even more so. James wants nothing more than to be a tool and force people to pay him for being one. Now for someone who is off at the grocery store and is afk/bot mining thats a different story. The issue remains James makes no distinction between 'afk I've got to crap' and 'afk I just wanna make money without playing the game'.


Bad argument.

Unless you are having some kind of digestive emergency, you have time to kill the mining module, and log off before you hit the can.

If you are having a real emergency, then getting podded is the last thing you are worried about.

If you AFK in a field we are patrolling, we don't care. you may wake up in station. Even a Permit will not save you from being ganked by the Order for AFK mining. The Code states this.

Permit miners must be ATK, and greet gankers and New Order agents and knights warmly in local.

Not even a Permit Tank will save an AFK miner from us.

Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.

www.minerbumping.com
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#260 - 2013-02-15 06:28:55 UTC
Kayle Tsuruomo wrote:
Get rid of faction police shooting at players because they've lost sec status while PvPing in low sec. Gets annoying having to make an alt because you PvPed in a PvP area and got punished for it via faction police. Its even more annoying when you get war dec'd and dont stand a chance against anyone in high sec with police attacking you.

I actually endorse this product/service because EVE is a PVP area.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.