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James 315 - An Apology and an Appeal
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#201 - 2013-02-15 04:41:12 UTC
So OP is a James 315 alt right?

I mean, you even wrote a massive wall spanning several posts...

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#202 - 2013-02-15 04:41:12 UTC
Tesal wrote:
But CCP does cater to me. They try to figure out what will be fun for me. The game isn't an immaculate entity divorced from player opinion.
If catering to you involves corrupting what makes this game unique to provide you with something you can get elsewhere, they shouldn't. That's rather the point of this entire thread.

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Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#203 - 2013-02-15 04:46:30 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
Its CCP's game. They changed things because they feel its best for the game not because some bear cried on the forums. Are those bears not targeted by CCP then by your very own words shouldnt they have their playstyle, at the very least, kept at level that they were at when they started playing?
Fortunately there is now a one word answer to any implication that CCP has the absolute and final word on what is best for the game: Incarna. As for not listening to whines, I guess that it's just through coincidence that they keep answering them then?

With regard to the carebear playstyle, if you mean putting it back to the level it was at in the past (and then hopefully moving focus on to fixing lowsec/0.0), sure, why not? I wouldn't seriously advocate for the removal of highsec or something extreme like that because, as you say, EVE was always intended to have some level of carebearing.

Sariah Kion wrote:
some of these low and null sec types need to HTFU!!!!
I don't think anyone disagrees with that.


Low Sec and Null need some serious thought put into them at this stage. The only way to bring balance as a whole is to address the game as a whole. I am completely with anyone who suggests that all facets of Eve need to be worked onto make the game all it can be for everyone it can.

What I cant stand is the mouth breathers that dont realize the motivations for some of the more prominent CEO's a directors of null coprs and alliances and why they attack High Sec. Many latch onto the theme and scream "HTFU" "carebear" "Eve is doomed" like the good little sheeple they are. They are pawns being played by a select few to tilt the game in the favor of their huge blue, carebear empires in null sec.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#204 - 2013-02-15 04:52:01 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Tesal wrote:
But CCP does cater to me. They try to figure out what will be fun for me. The game isn't an immaculate entity divorced from player opinion.
If catering to you involves corrupting what makes this game unique to provide you with something you can get elsewhere, they shouldn't. That's rather the point of this entire thread.

But, since EVE is dying, maybe they should ... what's a little corruption between internet spacefriends?

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Tesal
#205 - 2013-02-15 04:53:08 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Tesal wrote:
But CCP does cater to me. They try to figure out what will be fun for me. The game isn't an immaculate entity divorced from player opinion.
If catering to you involves corrupting what makes this game unique to provide you with something you can get elsewhere, they shouldn't. That's rather the point of this entire thread.


EvE is a game of the good guys versus the bad guys, however who is good and bad is a matter of perspective. What I find appealing might seem corrupt to you and vice a versa.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#206 - 2013-02-15 04:54:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Crumplecorn
Sariah Kion wrote:
What I cant stand is the mouth breathers that dont realize the motivations for some of the more prominent CEO's a directors of null coprs and alliances and why they attack High Sec. Many latch onto the theme and scream "HTFU" "carebear" "Eve is doomed" like the good little sheeple they are. They are pawns being played by a select few to tilt the game in the favor of their huge blue, carebear empires in null sec.
If anyone attempts to take action against the asymptotic approach of highsec to perfect safety, I couldn't really care less about their ulterior motives, and don't see why anyone else should either.


Tesal wrote:
EvE is a game of the good guys versus the bad guys, however who is good and bad is a matter of perspective. What I find appealing might seem corrupt to you and vice a versa.
I had trouble with the last post, but this one just completely lost me.

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#207 - 2013-02-15 04:55:46 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
What I cant stand is the mouth breathers that dont realize the motivations for some of the more prominent CEO's a directors of null coprs and alliances and why they attack High Sec. Many latch onto the theme and scream "HTFU" "carebear" "Eve is doomed" like the good little sheeple they are. They are pawns being played by a select few to tilt the game in the favor of their huge blue, carebear empires in null sec.

No one wants that.

But to balance EVE, we need to nerf high-sec while buffing low- and null-sec. Then we'll have a proper balance of risk vs. reward.

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Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#208 - 2013-02-15 05:01:42 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
What I cant stand is the mouth breathers that dont realize the motivations for some of the more prominent CEO's a directors of null coprs and alliances and why they attack High Sec. Many latch onto the theme and scream "HTFU" "carebear" "Eve is doomed" like the good little sheeple they are. They are pawns being played by a select few to tilt the game in the favor of their huge blue, carebear empires in null sec.

No one wants that.

But to balance EVE, we need to nerf high-sec while buffing low- and null-sec. Then we'll have a proper balance of risk vs. reward.


Sov needs a massive rework before anything gets moving anywhere else. Have the powers that be in nul sec get behind an idea that breaks up the blue fields of care bear land in null sec and puts a risk to go with the isk faceuts then I will get on board with changing a lot in other areas of the game including high sec. Right now null alliances have no skin in the game. They want to keep their care bear playgrounds and nerf everything else. They are going to have to show they are serious about the well being of the game instead of just trying to further their grasp.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#209 - 2013-02-15 05:01:43 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
What I cant stand is the mouth breathers that dont realize the motivations for some of the more prominent CEO's a directors of null coprs and alliances and why they attack High Sec. Many latch onto the theme and scream "HTFU" "carebear" "Eve is doomed" like the good little sheeple they are. They are pawns being played by a select few to tilt the game in the favor of their huge blue, carebear empires in null sec.
No one wants that.

But to balance EVE, we need to nerf high-sec while buffing low- and null-sec. Then we'll have a proper balance of risk vs. reward.
You're truing to " tilt the game in the favor of their huge blue, carebear empires in null sec."

HTFU carebear Eve is doomed

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#210 - 2013-02-15 05:02:44 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
You're truing to " tilt the game in the favor of their huge blue, carebear empires in null sec."

HTFU carebear Eve is doomed

Cry

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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#211 - 2013-02-15 05:03:48 UTC
OP only took the time to get their likes received count up because they knew James and his disciples would gush all over this form of propaganda and like the OPs posts. Or maybe OP is one of James's alts.
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#212 - 2013-02-15 05:06:43 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
What I cant stand is the mouth breathers that dont realize the motivations for some of the more prominent CEO's a directors of null coprs and alliances and why they attack High Sec. Many latch onto the theme and scream "HTFU" "carebear" "Eve is doomed" like the good little sheeple they are. They are pawns being played by a select few to tilt the game in the favor of their huge blue, carebear empires in null sec.
No one wants that.

But to balance EVE, we need to nerf high-sec while buffing low- and null-sec. Then we'll have a proper balance of risk vs. reward.
You're truing to " tilt the game in the favor of their huge blue, carebear empires in null sec."

HTFU carebear Eve is doomed


You frighten me you prophet of doom.

Shocked

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#213 - 2013-02-15 05:07:29 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
Sov needs a massive rework before anything gets moving anywhere else. Have the powers that be in nul sec get behind an idea that breaks up the blue fields of care bear land in null sec and puts a risk to go with the isk faceuts then I will get on board with changing a lot in other areas of the game including high sec. Right now null alliances have no skin in the game. They want to keep their care bear playgrounds and nerf everything else. They are going to have to show they are serious about the well being of the game instead of just trying to further their grasp.

So, wait, you're mad because some dudes went out and grabbed sov by the balls, and made it theirs, and then they get to carebear in it to their heart's content so long as they defend it from all comers?

Sounds like that's how ****'s supposed to work, darling.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#214 - 2013-02-15 05:08:14 UTC
Well, now we know one of James' alts. The format gives it away. *sigh*

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#215 - 2013-02-15 05:09:32 UTC
Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:
Well, now we know one of James' alts. The format gives it away. *sigh*

Too many line breaks. James writes complete, cohesive paragraphs.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#216 - 2013-02-15 05:10:12 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Need a wee? dock up, if you don't dock up don't be surprised to find whatever you were flying no longer exists. I play this game with the assumption that everybody is out to kill me, especially the people that I've known for a few years through the game and call friend, because I'd certainly do it them. Friendship is being able to laugh about it afterwards.


Last time I went to the toilet while mining, I lost an exhumer. That was post-Retribution, and the gankers didn't loot or salvage anything. So ganking happens and the gankers do it for the lulz, not the profit.

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Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#217 - 2013-02-15 05:15:41 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
Sov needs a massive rework before anything gets moving anywhere else. Have the powers that be in nul sec get behind an idea that breaks up the blue fields of care bear land in null sec and puts a risk to go with the isk faceuts then I will get on board with changing a lot in other areas of the game including high sec. Right now null alliances have no skin in the game. They want to keep their care bear playgrounds and nerf everything else. They are going to have to show they are serious about the well being of the game instead of just trying to further their grasp.

So, wait, you're mad because some dudes went out and grabbed sov by the balls, and made it theirs, and then they get to carebear in it to their heart's content so long as they defend it from all comers?

Sounds like that's how ****'s supposed to work, darling.


Im not mad about anything.

The ganshing of teeth over high sec isnt about the health of the game. Its about null sec empires wanting to tighten their grasp on the rest of the game and economy. They rest is just leading gullible people by the nose around to do the dirty work.

They yearn for the pvp yet are completely content to sit in their care bear opium dens of blue and drink from their isk fountains all day while in the same breath call out high sec players for living a much more dangerous life doing the same things.

They dont want change for the game they want change they can profit from.

[b]Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President[/b] Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. [u]A modern girl for a modern world.[/u]
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#218 - 2013-02-15 05:21:44 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
The ganshing of teeth over high sec isnt about the health of the game. Its about null sec empires wanting to tighten their grasp on the rest of the game and economy. They rest is just leading gullible people by the nose around to do the dirty work.

They yearn for the pvp yet are completely content to sit in their care bear opium dens of blue and drink from their isk fountains all day while in the same breath call out high sec players for living a much more dangerous life doing the same things.

That's some high quality tinfoil you've got there.

So, let me get this straight: Null-sec is safer than even high-sec and people out there are just drinking from literal ISK fountains, and no PVP happens, amirite? These mythical beings really want to PVP but don't because they're Scrooge McDuck'ing around in all their ISK, right?

It stands to reason, then, that far more ships get blown up in high-sec since null-sec is so safe, right?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#219 - 2013-02-15 05:23:23 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
The ganshing of teeth over high sec isnt about the health of the game. Its about null sec empires wanting to tighten their grasp on the rest of the game and economy. They rest is just leading gullible people by the nose around to do the dirty work.

They yearn for the pvp yet are completely content to sit in their care bear opium dens of blue and drink from their isk fountains all day while in the same breath call out high sec players for living a much more dangerous life doing the same things.

That's some high quality tinfoil you've got there.

So, let me get this straight: Null-sec is safer than even high-sec and people out there are just drinking from literal ISK fountains, and no PVP happens, amirite? These mythical beings really want to PVP but don't because they're Scrooge McDuck'ing around in all their ISK, right?

It stands to reason, then, that far more ships get blown up in high-sec since null-sec is so safe, right?

Well, you see, this wouldn't happen if we made high-sec SAFER.

Awoxing belongs in the realm of nullsec supercap fleets. Ganking belongs no where, since it means you're defying the GAME MECHANICS.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#220 - 2013-02-15 05:24:45 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
Sov needs a massive rework before anything gets moving anywhere else. Have the powers that be in nul sec get behind an idea that breaks up the blue fields of care bear land in null sec and puts a risk to go with the isk faceuts then I will get on board with changing a lot in other areas of the game including high sec. Right now null alliances have no skin in the game. They want to keep their care bear playgrounds and nerf everything else. They are going to have to show they are serious about the well being of the game instead of just trying to further their grasp.

So, wait, you're mad because some dudes went out and grabbed sov by the balls, and made it theirs, and then they get to carebear in it to their heart's content so long as they defend it from all comers?

Sounds like that's how ****'s supposed to work, darling.

They're praying to their NPC gods that those "some dudes" won't come and grab their miners/freighters by the balls

And "squeeze" with blasters and/or artillery.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?