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Dev Blog: No Brakes - Ship and module Balancing in Retribution 1.1

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CCP Dolan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2013-02-14 16:35:31 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Gargant
Our latest Dev Blog on Ship Balancing in Retribution 1.1 can be found here

Read what's going to be happening to Battlecruisers, Armor Tanking, Black Ops Battleships, and more courtesy of everyone's favorite game designer and Canadian lumberjack CCP Fozzie.

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Efraya
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#2 - 2013-02-14 16:37:33 UTC
In on the ground floor, excellent stuff!

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Bagehi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-02-14 16:38:29 UTC
Happy Valentine's Day to you Fozzie! Where do we send the chocolates for all these ship balance changes?
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2013-02-14 16:38:44 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Third!

This information contained in this blog has already all been available in the Features and Ideas section of the forum. If you want to get the earliest look at upcoming balance changes and have a hand in shaping our designs, check over there for new stickies from time to time and give us you feedback, I'd appreciate it.

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CCP Complex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2013-02-14 16:40:29 UTC
Bagehi wrote:
Happy Valentine's Day to you Fozzie! Where do we send the chocolates for all these ship balance changes?


Just put them on my desk.

I will take care of them.

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Bubanni
Corus Aerospace
#6 - 2013-02-14 16:46:50 UTC
love you Fozzie <3 happy valentines day!

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tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-02-14 16:54:04 UTC
Nice to see it all confirmed in a devblog. Looking forward to flying a triple-rep myrm with one of the new AAR modules!
Sofia Wolf
Ubuntu Inc.
The Fourth District
#8 - 2013-02-14 16:55:09 UTC
This day will go down in history as Fozzie's Valentine's day BC massacre.

Just kidding, good work for entire balancing team. Can't wait to see what will yo do with BS.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-02-14 16:57:02 UTC
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We are increasing the fuel cost of all Black Ops bridges by 25%, as well as increasing the size of the fuel bay of all Black Ops Battleships by 25%.
don't tell lies
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-02-14 17:00:23 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Quote:
We are increasing the fuel cost of all Black Ops bridges by 25%, as well as increasing the size of the fuel bay of all Black Ops Battleships by 25%.
don't tell lies

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Beaver Retriever
Reality Sequence
#11 - 2013-02-14 17:00:26 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Quote:
We are increasing the fuel cost of all Black Ops bridges by 25%, as well as increasing the size of the fuel bay of all Black Ops Battleships by 25%.
don't tell lies

Wait just a second.

The F&I thread said you were decreasing the costs. I do hope this is a typo. Cry
Sinzor Aumer
Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC
#12 - 2013-02-14 17:00:44 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Although the Tiericide project has a clear end point (which is on the horizon) the job of rebalancing ships in EVE will never be completed. We will be continuing with a rebalance of Tech 2, Tech 3 and Capital ships (none of which are afflicted with traditional “Tiers”), and we are committed to balancing on a regular basis to keep things fresh and to follow up on reactions to the earlier passes.

Faction? Guess you didnt forget they exist? ;-)
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2013-02-14 17:03:34 UTC
Beaver Retriever wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Quote:
We are increasing the fuel cost of all Black Ops bridges by 25%, as well as increasing the size of the fuel bay of all Black Ops Battleships by 25%.
don't tell lies

Wait just a second.

The F&I thread said you were decreasing the costs. I do hope this is a typo. Cry


Yeah it's a typo, fixing it now my bad.

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2013-02-14 17:05:17 UTC
Sinzor Aumer wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Although the Tiericide project has a clear end point (which is on the horizon) the job of rebalancing ships in EVE will never be completed. We will be continuing with a rebalance of Tech 2, Tech 3 and Capital ships (none of which are afflicted with traditional “Tiers”), and we are committed to balancing on a regular basis to keep things fresh and to follow up on reactions to the earlier passes.

Faction? Guess you didnt forget they exist? ;-)


They exist, but they have tiers so they're part of the "Tiericide" plan, unlike T2, T3 and Caps (yeah I know supercarriers are a kind of tier but it's a fairly different problem).

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-02-14 17:07:32 UTC
Looking forwards to these changes mixing up the market.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-02-14 17:08:52 UTC
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Yeah it's a typo, fixing it now my bad.
for half an hour hot manly tears were running down the faces of blops pilots as they screamed in despair at the heavens
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2013-02-14 17:12:20 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Quote:
Yeah it's a typo, fixing it now my bad.
for half an hour hot manly tears were running down the faces of blops pilots as they screamed in despair at the heavens


If I say it was an intentional attempt to troll Trebor would any of you believe me?

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Neugeniko
Insight Securities
#18 - 2013-02-14 17:16:05 UTC
CCP Fozzie,
You mention a mass reduction to 400mm plates,
is this correct?

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Sinzor Aumer
Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC
#19 - 2013-02-14 17:19:11 UTC
Another important question.
Once it was stated that first CCP will rebalance ships, then you'll change skill tree. It doesnt look like you're gonna make it till the summer update - I mean if we take capital ships into consideration. So what's the plan?
Kip Troger
Exiled Kings
Pain And Compliance
#20 - 2013-02-14 17:19:34 UTC
I really like that you guys gave some help to the active armor tanking world.

Was hoping that the Myrm would be able to fit a full set of heavies - just becasue I find it really irritating to manage heavy drones mixed with mediums or lights.

As for faction ships. Are they considered to be a tier above the rest? It seems like as of now, they just offer a bit of a different fit then the normal cruisers, but are not vastly superior as they were.

I am a little dissapointed with the limit of one AAR per ship. It seems like it would have been more EVElike to just make it much harder to fit PG wise, meaning that you would have to make a lot of sacrifice to fit two (like the ASB and CPU). Or just put a penalty on the boost for more modules of the same type running - are there any other tank modules that are limited one per ship?

Keep up the great work CCP Fozzie, and thank you for your presence on the forums as well.
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