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[Proposal] Character trading feature
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Sai Ulrezai
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-02-14 00:51:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Sai Ulrezai
Good, uh, night.

I recently found out about the character trading concept. I asked game masters whether name change comes together with the transfer and found out that character rename is not an option at all. This surprised me, because even "softcore" MMO-games often provide a payable character name change option while this game does not.
Point is, when a person intends to buy a character, he literally pays for the amount of skill points and (probably) the set of implants. However, that means that new owner has the certain chance to perform some scamming attempts by impersonating the previous owner. To prevent this, previous owner has to personally inform all his lifetime contacts that he intends to sell this character and he is no longer in charge of anything.
Second: the possibility to change name of a "brand-new" character would encourage a lot of people in this feature. Personally I would be >really< happy to buy some 10billion character but the only thing that stops me from doing so is that character name would most kilely be some typical "xXxPwNkIlLaHxXx". That's just... gross. Do not want.

So here is the idea: you may allow those who buy characters via the service to rename them. Say, once per year (yeah, justl ike those stat remaps) to prevent some criminal scum :3 from abusing this service to clear his name of some pesky deeds. That would encourage people like me to use the trading service by hundredfold.

Also this would advertise some more new players. Seriously. Take a look: right now people think about joining EVE community but amidst the pros and cons the concept of "new player can not compete with a player with six months played time, PERIOD". Well, it was for me when I first found out about this game. This reason pulled me away from registering here approx. 2.5 years ago (silly, silly me Q_Q). With the option I offer newcomers will be ebcouraged to:
- register new accounts and pay monthly fees immediately;
- pay for the character trading itself;
- pay for the character renaming option (if you decide to make that an extra charge option);
- pay for some more PLEX's to sell them to obtain some ISK to buy a ship for that character.
- ???
- PROFIT!
And for those who would deny this concept because "newfags must stay at the bottom": that IS the point. Do you really think a newcomer could beat a 2-year-old character who has a lot of gameplay experience even if he has the same ship/fitting? Oh, please. He won't even be able to fit the ship properly. That I can assure you of, for I personally deem myself a typical n00b. Yet.

Please, please, please consider this proposal as an option. Please. To be honest, I am just tired of these waaay toooo looooong skill training days so I would rather buy a character or two to actually have some >FUN< instead. And assuming that this concept would be of quite a profit for CCP... Please. Pretty please.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-02-14 04:34:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Nariya Kentaya
Sai Ulrezai wrote:
Good, uh, night.

I recently found out about the character trading concept. I asked game masters whether name change comes together with the transfer and found out that character rename is not an option at all. This surprised me, because even "softcore" MMO-games often provide a payable character name change option while this game does not.
Point is, when a person intends to buy a character, he literally pays for the amount of skill points and (probably) the set of implants. However, that means that new owner has the certain chance to perform some scamming attempts by impersonating the previous owner. To prevent this, previous owner has to personally inform all his lifetime contacts that he intends to sell this character and he is no longer in charge of anything.
Second: the possibility to change name of a "brand-new" character would encourage a lot of people in this feature. Personally I would be >really< happy to buy some 10billion character but the only thing that stops me from doing so is that character name would most kilely be some typical "xXxPwNkIlLaHxXx". That's just... gross. Do not want.

So here is the idea: you may allow those who buy characters via the service to rename them. Say, once per year (yeah, justl ike those stat remaps) to prevent some criminal scum :3 from abusing this service to clear his name of some pesky deeds. That would encourage people like me to use the trading service by hundredfold.

Also this would advertise some more new players. Seriously. Take a look: right now people think about joining EVE community but amidst the pros and cons the concept of "new player can not compete with a player with six months played time, PERIOD". Well, it was for me when I first found out about this game. This reason pulled me away from registering here approx. 2.5 years ago (silly, silly me Q_Q). With the option I offer newcomers will be ebcouraged to:
- register new accounts and pay monthly fees immediately;
- pay for the character trading itself;
- pay for the character renaming option (if you decide to make that an extra charge option);
- pay for some more PLEX's to sell them to obtain some ISK to buy a ship for that character.
- ???
- PROFIT!
And for those who would deny this concept because "newfags must stay at the bottom": that IS the point. Do you really think a newcomer could beat a 2-year-old character who has a lot of gameplay experience even if he has the same ship/fitting? Oh, please. He won't even be able to fit the ship properly. That I can assure you of, for I personally deem myself a typical n00b. Yet.

Please, please, please consider this proposal as an option. Please. To be honest, I am just tired of these waaay toooo looooong skill training days so I would rather buy a character or two to actually have some >FUN< instead. And assuming that this concept would be of quite a profit for CCP... Please. Pretty please.

You buy a character, you buy more than skillpoints, you buy a history and reputation, its part of the deal.


And on another note, im personally against the character bazaar on principal, ive personally seen too many noobs who think "if i dont have X skillpoints im worthless" so they go out and do EXACTLY what you do, they spend the money on the character, on plex for an "uber ship", and then immediately lose it in some ridiculous uber-noob move, then they quit eve out of frustration and tell their friends that the game tricks you out of your money and takes your stuff.

the character bazaar is there for a reason, for players who are too slow in the head or impatient to see the value of training skills on their own. players that buy a character often feel compelled to only use the "biggest bestest ship they can" which will cause them nothing but grief. that is ebcause these players may ahve caught up in the "sp race (which doesnt exist)", they are still, and in some cases mroe so, gimped in personal XP, since they will be flying high-risk ships with little experiecne to mitigate.


the current system dissuades most players from buying a character in favor of training up one, sicne they would ratyher not be known as "dumbnutz1414", if the ability to change the name of the character to anything you want became available, i would forsee a small but significant enough influx of new players buying older chars, that we coudl possibly see a drop in player retention rates, again due to the frustration of them losing the uber-expensive ships they bought the character to fly, because they didnt actually know how to FLY the ship.

my 2 cents as the recruiter for both a highsec indy corp, lowsec pvp corp, and currently an assistant in a wormhole mercenary corp.

EDIT: i apologize for any ranting or bad spelling, im tired, sleeping in my car at work sicne im on a 16 hour shift with a 2 hour break, and on a mobile device.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#3 - 2013-02-14 09:51:29 UTC
Do you not realize how game changing 'renaming' would be. The ability to wipe clean your reputation would ruin Eve.

Why am i not supprised that this awful idea has come from a 12 day old character.

Please play the game for a while before you make game changing suggestions. Also you may want to play for a while before you go buying characters....

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Sai Ulrezai
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-02-14 09:56:26 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Do you not realize how game changing 'renaming' would be. The ability to wipe clean your reputation would ruin Eve.

Why am i not supprised that this awful idea has come from a 12 day old character.

Please play the game for a while before you make game changing suggestions. Also you may want to play for a while before you go buying characters....

...or I may not. Or I may do so. Honestly, did you even read the entire "wall of text"? I am quite positive that you saw the string "character renaming" and immediately ragerushed to the bottom to write an answer like that. Typical.
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Syaran
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-02-14 10:15:36 UTC
The problem with such a feature is exactly what you mentioned: criminals will be able to easily clear away their bad rep and go on their merry way on to the next hapless victim. In this case the advantages just don't outweigh the disadvantages.
Sai Ulrezai
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-02-14 10:33:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Sai Ulrezai
Right. Thats exactly what I mean, you didn't read anything.
Sai Ulrezai wrote:
Say, once per year (yeah, just like those stat remaps) to prevent some criminal scum from abusing this service

Problem?
Not to mention that this additional option >must< be a chargeable service. If a so-called "scammer" wants to waste his one and only once per year "charge" he'll still have to pay the fee.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#7 - 2013-02-14 12:25:13 UTC
If you have to caveat an idea with 'You can only do it once a year' and 'it has a cost to limit its use', is it really a beneficial idea in the first place????

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Sai Ulrezai
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-02-14 12:57:36 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
If you have to caveat an idea with 'You can only do it once a year' and 'it has a cost to limit its use', is it really a beneficial idea in the first place????

It is, for those who wish to buy a character to PLAY. It is NOT a good idea, though, for those who intend to resell it. And they dont need that rename anyway.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#9 - 2013-02-14 13:32:28 UTC
Sai Ulrezai wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
If you have to caveat an idea with 'You can only do it once a year' and 'it has a cost to limit its use', is it really a beneficial idea in the first place????

It is, for those who wish to buy a character to PLAY. It is NOT a good idea, though, for those who intend to resell it. And they dont need that rename anyway.
Cost and the limitation of once a year, is laughable. It would still be open to all and abused.

This is NOT a new idea. Maybe a search and some research first, would have given you the heads up.

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