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CCP - Fix Drone aggro please.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#61 - 2013-02-13 22:24:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
For the love of Dagoth Ur, to this day I have yet to see ONE person say "Drones still work" who doesn't immediately follow it with "My Dominix and sentries."

Get this through your thick potato looking Dominxi heads: There are other drone ships besides Dominix. There are other drones besides sentries. I don't give a frak how happy you are that the very AFK boat combo that CCP said they were fixing is now the only one that still works. I want to see to Dragoons, Arbitrators, Myrmidons, Gilas and Scorpions to get their usefulness back! I want to know that there is still more than one frikkin' ship combo that is still viable! And I never, ever want to hear some nitwit talk about how their stupid Dominix/sentries combo is still able to AFK through everything and that somehow this fact is supposed to make everything all better for everyone! I assure you that it does not.

"Manage your drones better" coming from a sentry using Domi pilot is the pinnacle of asinine, because you self-righteous turds don't have to manage drones at all - you just blap your remote repair on your little floating turrets and ignore incoming damage. For those who actually still send drones out past 1km from their ship are still watching their drones get insta-popped by broken AI mechanics that think that six battleships insta-locking and alpha striking light drones is just dandy... guess what? Things still suck.

When drones die to insta-lock and one-shot alpha strikes then "management" doesn't come into the picture. At all. At this point drones are nothing more than two seconds worth of aggro chaff.

"Use ECM to draw aggro" - So fix one broken game mechanic by exploiting another broken game mechanic? Brilliant! Well I guess that means CCP can go take the weekend off, now. Nothing needs to be fixed after all! Wow that was easy.

"Adapt/HTFU" - Thank you cookie cutter Tengu douche for the insightful bit of self-aggrandizing fluff that's as useless as your own testes. Next idiot, please?

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Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-02-13 22:25:18 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
The need to use common sense tactics aside (like make sure the NPC's see you as a bigger threat than your drones, don't over extend, etc.) I'm not sure I can see how if as you claim NPC's don't act in a 100% predictiable manner... that this is in any way a bad thing.

About the most I can see is being totally embarrassed to admit I can't beat the NPC's unless they do the exact same thing every time.


No. Its more a fact that DPS is not balanced after the changes between drones and other weapon types. That is a function of how the Drones system works and how much more microing has to take place as well as the limiting of drone types in certain situations because of how the AI reacts.

I know some like to be "hard" and pretend like drone boat DPS hasnt dropped because of the changes but the reality is that is has. Thats not comparatively equal to other systems after the AI changes. A system overhaul would go a long way to bring drone boats, outside certain niche compositions, back into balance with other DPS types.

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Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-02-13 22:40:46 UTC
Hammer Borne wrote:
Sariah Kion wrote:
Winchester Steele wrote:
You know what's cool? If you actually pay attention and PLAY at the keyboard you will discover that drones are fine. I have lost a grand total of one hobgoblin since the AI change and I play drone boats almost exclusively.

Real sorry that you moaners lost your afk income source though. Cool


Straw man




When the little red bars start to turn red, your drones are being shot.

It is not hard, if you are actually playing the game.


That, and they don't even get shot at anymore if you use a single ewar or RR module.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-02-13 22:43:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Arronicus
Sariah Kion wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
The need to use common sense tactics aside (like make sure the NPC's see you as a bigger threat than your drones, don't over extend, etc.) I'm not sure I can see how if as you claim NPC's don't act in a 100% predictiable manner... that this is in any way a bad thing.

About the most I can see is being totally embarrassed to admit I can't beat the NPC's unless they do the exact same thing every time.


No. Its more a fact that DPS is not balanced after the changes between drones and other weapon types. That is a function of how the Drones system works and how much more microing has to take place as well as the limiting of drone types in certain situations because of how the AI reacts.

I know some like to be "hard" and pretend like drone boat DPS hasnt dropped because of the changes but the reality is that is has. Thats not comparatively equal to other systems after the AI changes. A system overhaul would go a long way to bring drone boats, outside certain niche compositions, back into balance with other DPS types.



My dominixs do 800 dps, sentry drones only, they never use ANY ammo, nor do they use capacitor to fire, they have ridiculous range, high tracking, and I have most of my high slots free to do whatever I like with. Additionally, as long as I'm running a RR module, my drones never get shot. I can run multiple ships, assign all the sentries to one, and ONLY that one ship needs to target anything, to apply the damage of all ships present.

So tell me, how do you propose that they boost turrets to be up in line with how OP my drone boats are right now?


Sariah Kion wrote:
[quote=Ranger 1]
pretend like drone boat DPS hasnt dropped because of the changes


Mine actually went up by 50 per ship, because of the change to drone damage mods, and my drones don't get shot any more. Go figure, it's like you're talking out of your ass.
ISD LackOfFaith
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#65 - 2013-02-13 22:50:24 UTC
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