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New booster circulating amongst federation ground forces

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Tobias Annages
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-02-13 03:49:17 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5033&tid=5

"Leaked reports from Federation military personnel bureaus have cropped up regarding a new boosters called ‘Talon' which has been circulating amongst ground battalions."
Liberty Roach
October Country
#2 - 2013-02-13 03:52:48 UTC
So which issit, then? Is you buying or selling? You forgot to say.
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2013-02-13 06:48:39 UTC
It's the Scope, they're advertising.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-02-13 07:39:43 UTC
Well, this correlates well with the earlier articles regarding Gallente soldiers killing POWs and civilians for fun and profit. When you're on combat boosters, just about anything violent seems like a good idea. That's why I take them before entering combat myself. Of course, I'm not shooting at POWs and civilians.
Aldarin Prefect
Black Mesa Mining Company
#5 - 2013-02-13 09:49:15 UTC
Seems like some action needs to be taken against the company commanders for aquiring the booster for their troops.
Rosen Thornn
House of Nightshade
#6 - 2013-02-13 13:10:22 UTC
Things will only get worse if these boosters get in the in hands of the immortal ground troops. There is little to no oversight for those mercaneries. They answer to no governement. The carnage and atrocities will only get worse.
Anslo
Scope Works
#7 - 2013-02-13 14:23:03 UTC
These idiots don't learn from past mistakes...

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-02-13 15:32:39 UTC
I've seen too many fine pilots destroyed by drugs such as these. If the Gallente are using them so massively, no doubt they'll soon end up losing control of their own batallions; specially if they aren't willful and dutifull enough, and it seems like they aren't, according to the news report.

Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander

Nicolas Merovech
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-02-13 16:32:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolas Merovech
This problem is rooted within the flagrant disregard of the Federation's military recruitment procedures. What should we expect when citizens with criminal histories are allowed to enlist? What should we expect when discipline is abandoned in favor of performance? Tensions with the Caldari are at an all-time high since the close of the war, Tibus Heth has declared war upon his own people; this will do nothing but complicate the situation if it isn't curbed immediately.

Dr. Nicolas A. Merovech, Ph. D, M.D.

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#10 - 2013-02-13 19:11:41 UTC
Using an addictive drug to enhance the abilities of one's military is huge step towards what the Gallente supposedly oppose...

wumbo

Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-02-13 19:18:25 UTC
Eli Green wrote:
Using an addictive drug to enhance the abilities of one's military is huge step towards what the Gallente supposedly oppose...


Not really, captain Green, they always favor the use of drugs, be them addictive or not.

Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander

DED Capsuleer
DED Drug Enforcement Department
#12 - 2013-02-13 20:22:10 UTC
I can assure everyone that we have our top people on this. Top people, people.
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#13 - 2013-02-13 20:24:02 UTC
True as that may be, it only takes someone with enough influence and desire for control to exploit this further.

wumbo

Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2013-02-13 21:17:37 UTC
Nicolas Merovech wrote:
What should we expect when citizens with criminal histories are allowed to enlist?


You will note that this does not systematicaly leads to negative things. The Valklear elite units in the Republic military are a perfect example of rehabilitated criminals with all the worst kind of backgrounds.

Of course though, if the standards of the recruiters themselves do not follow, that is another matter.

Sepherim wrote:
Eli Green wrote:
Using an addictive drug to enhance the abilities of one's military is huge step towards what the Gallente supposedly oppose...


Not really, captain Green, they always favor the use of drugs, be them addictive or not.


They do ?
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2013-02-14 00:02:59 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
You will note that this does not systematicaly leads to negative things. The Valklear elite units in the Republic military are a perfect example of rehabilitated criminals with all the worst kind of backgrounds.

Formal rehabilitation says nothing about character, Cpt. Farel. As far as I'm aware the Valklear fall short in regard to the high standards which e.g. the federal military usually holds it's soldiers to. Actually, they are quite praised for their effectiveness because they don't shy away from using brute force against their opponents.

The Valklears embody exactly what President Roden is "very concerned" about - sacrificing moral integrity for combat effectiveness.

Oh and by the way, the Valklears are - as far as I'm aware - rehabilitated after their service, not while they serve their term. The recruiting practices are quite dubious there, the training regime is rumored to be quite grueling as well. Not to speak of the personal freedoms they retain while serving. Oh and then there is the unsuccessful attempt at abolishing the practice by the civilian government of the newly formed Republic.

The Valklears certainly aren't a good example for successful rehabilitation through military service beyond the formalities.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-02-14 01:20:30 UTC
Aldarin Prefect wrote:
Seems like some action needs to be taken against the company commanders for aquiring the booster for their troops.


You may rest assured that we at Liandri Covenant will do our best to ensure that no Federation commanders or any other Federation personnel will* engage in such sordid behavior** in the future. We will attempt to penalize such behavior*** with strict punishments****.








*get the chance to

**ever again

***specifically, the behavior of joining the Federation Army or Navy

****The kind that have no repeat offenders
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#17 - 2013-02-14 07:35:17 UTC
We in the Federation military prefer to solve our problems through public announcement and accountability rather than, you know, bombing them from space.
Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#18 - 2013-02-14 09:21:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Bataav
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
We in the Federation military prefer to solve our problems through public announcement and accountability rather than, you know, bombing them from space.

And yet we have not seen an official statement on behalf of the Federation military.

The Scope article follows leaked reports, and there is commentary from one of Scope's military analysts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm unaware of a response from the military themselves.

When I consider comments made in the past by some in the Federation regarding the problems of challenging the narcotics trade in Placid, I wonder just how willing the military really is to be open and accountable when it comes to problems revealed within their own ranks.

As Inhonores rightly says, however. That improvements in military techniques and progressive doctrines have moved on, from the genocidal orbital bombardments of the history books to the drug crazed murder of civilians in Placid and Black Rise, is a great comfort to us all.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#19 - 2013-02-14 11:05:05 UTC
You have to feel some sympathy for the Federation troops, forced by criminal indiscretions into a war they don't believe in, a profession they never wanted on behalf of a government that shamelessly uses them. So demoralised by all this are they that their commanders have to induce them to fight through the use of combat boosters.

And, of course, the deal that keeps them out of jail means that they can't simply resign and go home.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#20 - 2013-02-14 11:40:37 UTC
Ah, touche, captain Bataav.

Also, what you on about, Tuulinen? We don't have conscription here, unlike your end. You're not going to tell me every single Caldari is passionately loyal and willing, are you? Every. Single. One? I thought you folk didn't like the corporate drone stereotype.
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