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CCP - Fix Drone aggro please.

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Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-02-13 19:07:07 UTC
That is all.


Thanks in advance.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2013-02-13 19:17:55 UTC
Content abounds in this thread.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Josef Djugashvilis
#3 - 2013-02-13 19:19:00 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
That is all.


Thanks in advance.



There's none so blind as those who will not see.

CCP must have a pirate patch over their drone seeing eye.

This is not a signature.
Commander Spurty
#4 - 2013-02-13 19:21:50 UTC
For those of us with jobs and can't log in to see this for another 5 hours, what's the problem .. exactly?

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-02-13 19:22:59 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Content abounds in this thread.


I wish there were more to say that hasn't been hashed out many times already,

The proverbial ball is in CCP's court now.

They need to act. Too long have drones been a sideshow when it comes to weapons systems and with the latest change they have rendered them even more impotent.

Time for talk is over.

Fix the drones CCP.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2013-02-13 19:25:54 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:
I wish there were more to say that hasn't been hashed out many times already,


And there is the reason for threadlockage.

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2013-02-13 19:51:38 UTC
inb4 someone calls you a utterly stupid idiot.

Utterly stupid idiot


also inb4tl

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Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
#8 - 2013-02-13 19:51:39 UTC
My main is a Gallente pilot, specializing in drones. Since the aggro changes I have lost exactly ONE hobgoblin.
Try paying attention to what's happening on your screen, and learn what types of ships will switch targets.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#9 - 2013-02-13 19:55:04 UTC
This thread is in response to:

CCP - Please fix AFK drone boat mission running.

Thanks in advance.


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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#10 - 2013-02-13 19:58:01 UTC
Problem I see is that CCP's claim to have "fixed" the AI is complete rubbish. Y'know, the whole "cruisers don't target light, battleships only target heavy & sentries..."

My ass. I've seen battleships alpha striking light drones left and right. And the drone insta-lock is never getting fixed. 25 signature and AI is shooting them 2 seconds out of the launch bays.

They put a band-aid on a gunshot wound.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Hammer Borne
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-02-13 19:58:26 UTC
I make extensive use of sentries as well as light and medium drones.

Thus far I have seen no issue. Missions as well as null anoms/sigs just require the operator to have a pulse now.
Azrin Stella Oerndotte
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-02-13 20:06:18 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Problem I see is that CCP's claim to have "fixed" the AI is complete rubbish. Y'know, the whole "cruisers don't target light, battleships only target heavy & sentries..."

My ass. I've seen battleships alpha striking light drones left and right. And the drone insta-lock is never getting fixed. 25 signature and AI is shooting them 2 seconds out of the launch bays.

They put a band-aid on a gunshot wound.

I have noticed rats switching to drones if you don't keep shooting at them, takes a while but they do.

I for one like the new AI.
Bow'en
Solutum
#13 - 2013-02-13 20:14:21 UTC
Can I redirect?

Buff drones a bit! The new system punishes people who don't manage their resources, so how about a little boost for those who do?

I am also clocking in on the "have lost very few". I missed the change when it came through, lost a flight of Hob IIs. Researched the issue, and haven't had a problem since. Fit EWAR and HTFU.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#14 - 2013-02-13 20:16:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Just watched an Imperial Navy Infiltrator die in one shot to an AI battleship from over 60km away. Over 2000EHP... one shot. No warning, no time to react. Just poof.

Drones are still broken. Tengu jerks just denying it for the trollols.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2013-02-13 20:19:39 UTC
CCP does not seem very interested in fixing this at all.

That is all.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Dyjal'Ryn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-02-13 20:29:58 UTC
I fail to see the problem.
I use a Sentry-focused Dominix to run missions to keep my standing up, and I haven't lost a single one. I have lost a few Hobgoblins and Hammerheads since the change, but that's because when I only use them after I have destroyed everything but Frigates, as Grade's with some Drone Sharpshooting and Omnidirectional Tracking Links can hit Cruisers no problem. Additionally, I have only lost those Hobs and Hammerheads because once the Frigates are the only thing left in a pocket I stop caring, and the things are so damn cheap it doesn't matter.

If you are having problems with your drones dying then I would suggest stop throwing them at ships that are at max drone control range or, if you have learned not to do that, pay some kind of attention to those little bars under your Drones in Local Space tab. If all else fails use Sentries. I sit right next to mine because they can't move, so if they get targeted I just pull them, and redeploy.

TL;DR
It's not a bad change, you are a bad player, I suppose.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-02-13 20:31:07 UTC
Dyjal'Ryn wrote:
I fail to see the problem.



Try running a few missions then for a change.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
vyshnegradsky
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#18 - 2013-02-13 20:33:03 UTC
Dyjal'Ryn wrote:
I fail to see the problem.
I use a Sentry-focused Dominix to run missions to keep my standing up, and I haven't lost a single one. I have lost a few Hobgoblins and Hammerheads since the change, but that's because when I only use them after I have destroyed everything but Frigates, as Grade's with some Drone Sharpshooting and Omnidirectional Tracking Links can hit Cruisers no problem. Additionally, I have only lost those Hobs and Hammerheads because once the Frigates are the only thing left in a pocket I stop caring, and the things are so damn cheap it doesn't matter.

If you are having problems with your drones dying then I would suggest stop throwing them at ships that are at max drone control range or, if you have learned not to do that, pay some kind of attention to those little bars under your Drones in Local Space tab. If all else fails use Sentries. I sit right next to mine because they can't move, so if they get targeted I just pull them, and redeploy.

TL;DR
It's not a bad change, you are a bad player, I suppose.


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Rike Ewann
#19 - 2013-02-13 20:33:19 UTC
Sariah Kion wrote:


I wish there were more to say that hasn't been hashed out many times already,

The proverbial ball is in CCP's court now.

They need to act. Too long have drones been a sideshow when it comes to weapons systems and with the latest change they have rendered them even more impotent.

Time for talk is over.

Fix the drones CCP.


I am sure your massive amount of drone sp is hindered by the current drone mechanics.


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Caldari State
#20 - 2013-02-13 20:44:53 UTC
Souxie Alduin wrote:
My main is a Gallente pilot, specializing in drones. Since the aggro changes I have lost exactly ONE hobgoblin.
Try paying attention to what's happening on your screen, and learn what types of ships will switch targets.


Do you use heavy drones? I think those are for PvP only now.

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