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Blockade Runners – now safe transporters or suicide ships?
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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#81 - 2013-02-13 12:18:39 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
DSTs get into warp off a gate in about the same time as a freighter. Plenty of time to bump it around until some firepower shows up.

Unlike a freighter a DST does have a mid slot so it can always go into warp in 10 seconds.

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Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#82 - 2013-02-13 12:30:02 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
DSTs get into warp off a gate in about the same time as a freighter. Plenty of time to bump it around until some firepower shows up.

Unlike a freighter a DST does have a mid slot so it can always go into warp in 10 seconds.


Still the BR is way better. In 10 seconds a ship will take a lot of DPS and the tacklers will have time to get over to it and get a couple of scrams on and start bumping. In my experience bumping is not a guaranteed way to keep someone out of warp, maybe I was doing it wrong though. Anyway as for the DST cargo cap sucks unless you fill the lows with expanders and I would want at least 3 warp stabs on top of the +2 role bonus.

That would prolly get you through most camps; not bubble camps, high dps camps, dictor camps, or frigate camps. Making the BR imho hands down the better option. And there's no need for that, the DST should be just as viable. Celly's idea about the MJD would be cool.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#83 - 2013-02-13 12:35:02 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
So blockade runners are now unscannable by cargo scanners. But what will this mean? Will suicide gankers ignore those ships? Or will they rather blow up every Viator they see because they think there must be incredibly valuable stuff inside?

Please go forth and do some field tests, then report back here. In the name of science :)

Whats your interest in this anyway? Are you just pointing out that it was a pointless change?
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#84 - 2013-02-13 12:40:39 UTC
My interest was whether people thought BR ganks would increase after the patch. People said they would. My own experiences tell otherwise, I continued to undock in Jita with my Viator and nobody ganked me. Although there is plenty of time for locking on the undock.

Now I don't really have an interest in this, but as OP I always get a notification when someone necroes the thread yet again P

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Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#85 - 2013-02-13 12:53:57 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
My interest was whether people thought BR ganks would increase after the patch. People said they would. My own experiences tell otherwise, I continued to undock in Jita with my Viator and nobody ganked me. Although there is plenty of time for locking on the undock.

Now I don't really have an interest in this, but as OP I always get a notification when someone necroes the thread yet again P

Make an insta undock, especially in Jita. Just undock in a fast ship with a stable MWD, activate the MWD and go make a cup of tea. Come back in a few minutes and bookmark that spot. Next time you undock warp to that spot first thing. Then warp to the gate from there. Any other way of leaving station will get you popped eventually.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2013-02-13 15:37:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
This thread is great !
I totally missed that there are haulers sporting 3.1sec aligntime,
i really gotta look into this... i can see tons of fun coming from that ! :D

Thanks ! :D

Edit: Prorator with cheap implant: 2.9s ... :D


Yeah, always burn over to their last position; the pilot may try to go back to the gate or align to the wrong object and then stop for a sec to realign, maybe the fit sucks and he will be aligning for a few seconds, or maybe just missed the jump button all together and be sitting there cloaked.

The lowsec camps I've been through tend to just ignore the cloaked ships. The null sec ones often come right over to where they saw you in an attempt to decloak the ship.
Nah, i'm not talking about these boring things !
Evading camps is dead easy anyway! :D
I'm talking about a -10 warping around on grid in a hauler! :D
And i can't cloak in highsec! :D

That'd beat my "I'm mocking you"-Wreathe by far ! XD
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#87 - 2013-02-13 15:43:48 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Nah, i'm not talking about these boring things !
Evading camps is dead easy anyway! :D
I'm talking about a -10 warping around on grid in a hauler! :D
And i can't cloak in highsec! :D

That'd beat my "I'm mocking you"-Wreathe by far ! XD


Oh, ha. As a gate runner I see 3 or 4 sec align time and think "gee thats a long wait." You as a -10 see it and think "wow thats plenty of time, they'll never catch me." Funny

I might have to go -10 just to see what that is like. You can still dock and everything in hisec right? Just anyone can shoot you and you can't sit still for long or the cops will get you. Is there anything else to know?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2013-02-13 15:58:48 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Nah, i'm not talking about these boring things !
Evading camps is dead easy anyway! :D
I'm talking about a -10 warping around on grid in a hauler! :D
And i can't cloak in highsec! :D

That'd beat my "I'm mocking you"-Wreathe by far ! XD


Oh, ha. As a gate runner I see 3 or 4 sec align time and think "gee thats a long wait." You as a -10 see it and think "wow thats plenty of time, they'll never catch me." Funny

I might have to go -10 just to see what that is like. You can still dock and everything in hisec right? Just anyone can shoot you and you can't sit still for long or the cops will get you. Is there anything else to know?
That about sums it up, in a kind of shallow manner. ^_^
It's not fun though, if you only warp around between gates. :)
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#89 - 2013-02-13 16:05:26 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:

That about sums it up, in a kind of shallow manner. ^_^
It's not fun though, if you only warp around between gates. :)


I do have friends in highsec that I like to mine and mission and do sites with. hmmm

Your right that was shallow, let me think a bit..

"So as a -10 outlaw in Empire space the police are always there, ready to strike, you can't stop for very long. One man outnumbered hundreds to one, nothing to live for but his dreams, nothing to live with but his guns, gimmicks, machines. And yet the whole family can't bring him down out of that...that..."

"Honkey Paradise brother?"
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#90 - 2013-02-13 16:07:07 UTC
holly ****! the editor blanked out honkey. that's just wrong.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2013-02-13 16:19:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
holly ****! the editor blanked out ******. that's just wrong.

I'd suggest you go on a few ganking roams with me and once you're -5 it's even more fun. ^_^
Theorizing has no value. Most people have no idea, unless they start doing it.

You'll only hear bullshit from people who have no clue anyway. ^_^

Now let's stop hijacking this thread. ^_^