Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why are lvl 4 missions able to be run in high.

Make the best missions in low sec please, so they have to risk their 100 mill a hour ships, thanks!

You jelly?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=181
They are already under risk high enough to lose their pimp mobiles on missions in high sec.

Another:

-nerf lvl 4's thread

-nerf high sec carebears thread

-give me more easy picking targets because I'm lazy thread

Posted here, be honored of my holy presence you infidel.

Who makes 100m/hr in highsec Lv4s?

Also, if we're going to move income-generation around because of things like risk and hassle, then L4s and L5s should be only in nullsec. That way you have to deal with the risk of gankers, bubblecamps, AFK/ATK cloakers, standings with the owner and, to an extent, overall politics in your area.

well, thoses kills are not under the topic here, at one moment, those mission runners choosed to engage, they were not blaped by 10+ nados but 1v1, there is nothing we can do for those who caught the "stupid"

or they were at war, and still undocked their shiny, so they still caught the "stupid"

plus highsec was never meant to be SAFE, it is meant to be SAFEST, and concord doesn't protect, they punish.

even in high, when you undock a ship, you shall be prepared to loose it.

yes, the odds are lower in high, very low tbh, BUT the possibility still exist, and this is what makes EvE Online, EvE Online, this is no Hello Kity Online

one shall just do it's homework, increased PVE income in high == inflation....

two recent skyrocketing in prices: incursion arrival, mining revamp


and on the other hand, highsec has been given incursions, better mining......

the PVE isk faucet in high as only risen this past year or so...... partly leading to the current inflated market we have now.....

Yeah... all those super rich PVE corps that run extensively in hi-sec... oh wait, not that would be the cartels who run in null who control the passive ISK faucets known as moons.

You average carebear miner who is decked out maybe makes 10-12 M/hour on a good day.

You average carebear level IV mission runner, not decked out in a maurader also makes about 10-12M/hour on a good day.

Having run level IV missions to grind standings I can tell you I would rather be doing something else. They are painfully repetitive and boring. But in order to afford my T2 ships I have to deal with purchasing T2 components controlled by large alliances in null.

As for the cause of the inflation. Stop buying the new shinies like tier 3 BCs and it won't go up so much.

In the case of supply and demand, the only people not playing fair (though by the rules) are the cartels.

Free lesson 1 for you: missions have been nerf to the ground since 3 years now, from amount of loot (some 4.5k m3+ now drop about 0.7k m3 at best), reward amount and rats bounty amount, increased number of rats and AI (thus decreasing the speed at which you clean your mission and global income amount)

Free lesson 2: plex is about to skyrocket to 600M, tell us all how you manage to do 600M an hour with your uber ship.

Best advice: come back when you know something about high sec mission and rewards, so you don't look ridiculous with your comments like the one you just did.

i think you have no idea what you are talking about.


yes, passive income in null is one face of the problem, but just by looking at the market stats, you see that the updates i mentionned, each drove a big inflation spike.

plus, a bear running lvl4 making 10-12M / hour a good day? like really? then you are a very bad bear!


a year and half ago, with only 1 account, in high, just by running lvl4, i was doing 70+M / hour, 100M if i include loot / slavage.

and incursion give even MORE than that

sorry but the income i mentionned is AFTER the nerf, i handed my setup to a corpmember who is running LVL 4 in the same system is used to do it (cause i pvp lowsec now, it's way more fun), and this is still around the level of income he make.