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Who flies around in Rattlesnakes?
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DSpite Culhach
#1 - 2013-02-13 04:36:25 UTC
First I'll try to ask my own question, but I wanted to know if people are flying them for anything other then this, as I can't seem to see where else they get used, probably as cost of losing it them being a big factor.

* Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers.
* Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy..
* Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers
... Is that it?

I have checked Battleclinic and fits are all over the place, mostly to run L4's, in which honestly, NPC's can't really kill this thing even if you're blindfolded, if you mission specific, as it seems trivial to fit 600+ tank.

As far as I can tell the BPC's sell from Gurista LP stores and don't drop that often from spawns ... just seems like a rather weird ship all round, also, since the drone changes, apparently a lot of people have stopped using them.

Is anyone still flying these much, other then possibly missions? Maybe some unusual fits?

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.
Orlacc
#2 - 2013-02-13 05:03:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Mostly used by High Sec Mission Runners it seems.

Ultra tank to combat fear.

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Grimm Griefer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-02-13 05:19:51 UTC
I fly one because I think it looks friggen hot.
scorpion is to specialised
the SNI isn't bad
but the Rattlesnake just looks so damn cool.
Also heard they are often used as baitships lol
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#4 - 2013-02-13 06:50:01 UTC
You can do a Battlesnake which is drones + either torps or heavy neuts in the highs and 2 X-Large ancillary shield boosters
amurder Hakomairos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-02-13 12:15:29 UTC
I've seen them used a lot for nullsec plexes and anoms due to massive
tank and good dps with sentries.
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-02-13 12:39:44 UTC
DSpite Culhach wrote:
* Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers.
* Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy..
* Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers
... Is that it?


No.
DSpite Culhach
#7 - 2013-02-13 12:54:45 UTC
Haha. Very interesting. Thanks for that link :)

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Songbird
#8 - 2013-02-13 13:19:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Songbird
Haven't flown 1 in ages, but with the new torps and drone damage mods who knows it might be good for something.

p.s.
BTW AE extra room is better in a machariel, kill everything fast before it can reach you mwahahaha
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#9 - 2013-02-13 14:17:37 UTC
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
DSpite Culhach wrote:
* Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers.
* Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy..
* Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers
... Is that it?


No.


Damn, that's awesome. Any idea what fit they were using?

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Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#10 - 2013-02-13 14:29:16 UTC
Songbird wrote:
Haven't flown 1 in ages, but with the new torps and drone damage mods who knows it might be good for something.

p.s.
BTW AE extra room is better in a machariel, kill everything fast before it can reach you mwahahaha


HAMgu with javelins. Kill painting frigs, kill webbing frigs, kill the painting BS and then the sentries. My small booster can withstand the incomming damage with an invul and a exp hardener meanwhile. It took me a while and a few warpouts to figure the best target priority, but after the first time, I had no problem with them and I have never warped out again.
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#11 - 2013-02-13 14:39:10 UTC
Every time someone mentions a machariel in a thread that isn't about machariels I feel like punching a kitten.
Mire Stoude
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-02-13 23:19:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Mire Stoude
I used one last year when in the CFC and they burned through the north. The FC bought it and used it instead of the ship they normally bring. He didn't expect to live through the fight, but he did, so he raffled it off afterwards when we were bored and I won. I kept his fit on it and took it to most Alpha Fleets. It had nearly 300k ehp iirc. It was a horrible Alpha fleet ship, but I always enjoyed that first "Is someone seriously bringing a rattlesnake?" on comms.

EDIT: I named it "Rafflesnake"
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-02-13 23:32:43 UTC
Dont forget micro jump drive + sentry drones + cruise missiles, should work quite well in pve and avoids drone aggro.
DSpite Culhach
#14 - 2013-02-13 23:59:39 UTC
Songbird wrote:
Haven't flown 1 in ages, but with the new torps and drone damage mods who knows it might be good for something.

p.s.
BTW AE extra room is better in a machariel, kill everything fast before it can reach you mwahahaha


I did all the training for the new ship changes, and I keep reading that maybe we end up getting a net SP refund? NOt 100% sure, but if we do get raw SP, I was thinking of putting those towards flying turret ships, so aiming that way might not be a bad idea.

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DSpite Culhach
#15 - 2013-02-14 00:00:34 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
DSpite Culhach wrote:
* Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers.
* Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy..
* Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers
... Is that it?


No.


Damn, that's awesome. Any idea what fit they were using?


I might actually ask one of the players. If I get a reply I'll pass it on.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2013-02-14 00:21:45 UTC
I still use one, T2 sentries, 3 x DDA, 2 x omni's, 2 x Drone links and an active tank, gives you over 700 dps on wardens. Put a shield RR on the high so you can rep the sentry, that way you still putting out dps. Only switch to light drones when frigs make it through and keep them close.
Valea Silpha
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-02-14 02:44:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Valea Silpha
DSpite Culhach wrote:


* Safely running L4's missions, not worrying about triggers.
* Special rooms like the last one in Angel Extravaganza, as they can mount a large, >1K NPC tank rather easy..
* Passive taking L5 missions because of the neut towers
... Is that it?



They don't actually do as well as you might hope they do for most of that. I couldn't speak to lvl 5s, but they do need to pay attention to triggers in lvl 4s, and use good target discipline in special rooms. They can't just sit and tank whole missions and not break a sweat. They tank well for sure, but they are FAR from invulnerable.

They are sweet mission runners and have a big enough tank to run any mission you throw at them, but particularly since the vast majority of damage is drone based they can be pretty slow at getting dps off the field, particularly for anything that can apply heavy damage out past Garde range. It means that if you bite off more than you can chew you can't just immediately bulldoze the dps down to a safe level. You can fit such that you are better able to apply dps with onmi tracking links, but that reduces your tank significantly.

It's a great mission runner, for sure. I use mine for anything involving Sansha where my paladin gets tracking disrupted. Just don't go in thinking you can just randomly shoot at crap and everything will be fine.
CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#18 - 2013-02-14 04:00:15 UTC
Rattlesnake for me is one of the best looking ships in the game, that is a good reason to fly one, but also is great for missions.

Actually I usually end up shooting the crap I should not be shooting and my rattle gets me out of trouble all the time.
Vegine
Sphere Foundation
#19 - 2013-02-14 05:17:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Vegine
I happen to know a bit about the rattle used in that pvp video. Below is a sample:

[Rattlesnake, LogiSnake]
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Target Painter II
X-Large Shield Booster II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Large Energy Transfer Array II
Large Energy Transfer Array II
Large Energy Transfer Array II
Large Energy Transfer Array II

Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I

+HG crystal implant
I assumed that video was before new drone dmg mods etc were released thus didn't use them. Above fit is gimped a little (lol)by sticking to purely T2. 2 of these feeding each other its cap stable, local shield recovery of 700/s each snake. With a few tackle and support help the duo is quiet fun. resist 61-69-76-86

If you are willing to throw down the money, the numbers get exponentially fun. Below is a ridiculous fit (well, to some. Some of us consider 5-6b pocket change Big smile)

[Rattlesnake, LogiSnake]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Co-Processor
Caldari Navy Co-Processor

Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pith C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster

Imperial Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Imperial Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array
Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array
Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array
Imperial Navy Large Energy Transfer Array

Large Egress Port Maximizer II
Large Egress Port Maximizer II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


+ HG crystal implant
this one mainly aimed for tank and still rely on tackles. resists 80-81-86-88. duo feeding off each other its cap stable and.. local shield regen of 1500+ hp/s. in order to break this tank you need about 7500dps minimum. It can also handle a neuter or two as itself also neuts and can free up quiet a bit of cap regen by turning off neut/1 energy transfer on the ship being targeted.

there's also a nano tackle fit which is hella fun when you use it to duo or small gang roam. but...I'll keep that off of table for now .:p
Vegine
Sphere Foundation
#20 - 2013-02-14 06:23:18 UTC
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