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getinmyshipihavecandy
Suspicious Van
#141 - 2013-01-07 16:09:43 UTC  |  Edited by: getinmyshipihavecandy
Great tool but I'm having problems using the IGB scanner. It seems Characterorderscanner.html isn't generated when I activate the IGB scanner so I can't scan my orders. All the other files generate fine.

EDIT: Sorry, just went onto the website and I found the IGB troubleshooting had the solution to my problem.. Silly me.
Legen Dary
Saxonia Old Stars
#142 - 2013-02-06 08:51:07 UTC
Good Morning from Germany. Great Tool but a have a Problem with the new beta.

i check and then delete the entries of "Fullfilled Orders" in EvE-Mentat.
But after every API Import the old fullfilled and canceled orders appears again.
In the settings "Import only new market data" is turned on. So its hard to check
which new orders are fullfilled ...
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#143 - 2013-02-12 20:04:48 UTC
CCP Screegs considers this useful tool now as a bot by using locally stored cache files. What?

Winner ATXI , 3rd place ATXII, winner ATXIII, 2nd ATXIV - follow me on twitter: @ForlornW
Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#144 - 2013-02-17 11:01:28 UTC
Forlorn Wongraven wrote:
CCP Screegs considers this useful tool now as a bot by using locally stored cache files. What?

Proofs?

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Desmont McCallock
#145 - 2013-02-17 11:44:45 UTC
First I like to apologize for hijacking the thread. I would like to post something to Thart's defense.
Here is my response on the EO EVEMon thread when I was 'accused' of providing a bot mechanism through EVEMon.
Quote:
CCP Sreegs isn't CCP and until CCP releases an official statement on the matter, no actions will be taken from our side.

And for the record, scrapping the cache file doesn't violate the EULA as it doesn't change anything on the client. When/If CCP adds that to the EULA, we'll see to it that we get in line.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2603507#post2603507
Jack Vanderpool
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#146 - 2013-02-18 23:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Vanderpool
New to eve and to Mentat and love both. Having a problem with the market browser.

A couple days ago I was researching prices, and looked for Massive Scordite in several regions using the navigation on the left. But now whenever I go to search for that (and this is affecting other commodities too), the Region view is stuck on The Forge. The whole list disappears, and when I select All and import again all that come up is The Forge.

I'm sure I'm just not getting the import timing/selection correct, but I seem to have tried it every way it makes sense to me and it is still stuck on one region. Is there a good description/document of how to use the Navigator panel?

Thanks!
Reah Loth
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#147 - 2013-02-19 03:26:36 UTC
Hey,
I am having an issue with the cache import of market orders.

It works fine after I have deleted the MachoNet folder in the cache, but after a while (same session) it stops working again. Deleting MachoNet fixes it, but it gets tedious having to exit the client all the time.

I am using version 1.2.16.1161. There is no error message, the import pop-up box says x orders imported, y files deleted, same as when it works.
Erick Johnson
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#148 - 2013-02-20 02:22:54 UTC
@Thart

Not sure if this is the right place to pose the question / suggestion, but is it possible to use the price difference as a parameter in the smart filter. I love the tool but when updating orders I'd like to only show orders with a price difference > "X". Is this possible or is there another tool that would achieve this?

Thanks for all the hard work!
Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#149 - 2013-02-20 19:02:12 UTC
Jack Vanderpool wrote:
New to eve and to Mentat and love both. Having a problem with the market browser.

A couple days ago I was researching prices, and looked for Massive Scordite in several regions using the navigation on the left. But now whenever I go to search for that (and this is affecting other commodities too), the Region view is stuck on The Forge. The whole list disappears, and when I select All and import again all that come up is The Forge.

I'm sure I'm just not getting the import timing/selection correct, but I seem to have tried it every way it makes sense to me and it is still stuck on one region. Is there a good description/document of how to use the Navigator panel?

Thanks!


Answered in e-mail.

Reah Loth wrote:
Hey,
I am having an issue with the cache import of market orders.

It works fine after I have deleted the MachoNet folder in the cache, but after a while (same session) it stops working again. Deleting MachoNet fixes it, but it gets tedious having to exit the client all the time.

I am using version 1.2.16.1161. There is no error message, the import pop-up box says x orders imported, y files deleted, same as when it works.


Did you try all from troubleshooting section?


Erick Johnson wrote:
@Thart

Not sure if this is the right place to pose the question / suggestion, but is it possible to use the price difference as a parameter in the smart filter. I love the tool but when updating orders I'd like to only show orders with a price difference > "X". Is this possible or is there another tool that would achieve this?

Thanks for all the hard work!

What is price difference?
Maybe this expression [Price] - [Cost price] > 100000

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Erick Johnson
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#150 - 2013-02-20 21:39:54 UTC
Sorry for not being more clear.

When I update the market details from cache Eve Mentat and I click the individual line item it will show me the price difference between what I am selling / buying at and the best competitor price.

What I was hoping was to show / limit the orders that I have only been overbid on by set amounts so I can quickly update those, does that make more sense?
Reah Loth
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#151 - 2013-02-20 21:47:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Reah Loth
Went through all the troubleshooting before posting :)

The weird thing is that it works for a few imports, then it stops. It reports no errors when I do the "cache import", the orders simply don't update.

The only thing I can think of that might be different from me and most other users is that I use this method to run multiple clients from the same installation.

I don't know how it would matter, as every client has its own cache (which is why I use this method), but it might be worth mentioning.

Edit: Made some extra installations to test, it still only imports once or twice then stops working.
Reah Loth
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#152 - 2013-02-21 21:41:19 UTC
Reah Loth wrote:
Went through all the troubleshooting before posting :)

The weird thing is that it works for a few imports, then it stops. It reports no errors when I do the "cache import", the orders simply don't update.

The only thing I can think of that might be different from me and most other users is that I use this method to run multiple clients from the same installation.

I don't know how it would matter, as every client has its own cache (which is why I use this method), but it might be worth mentioning.

Edit: Made some extra installations to test, it still only imports once or twice then stops working.


Man was I dumb back then! After wasting some of Thart's time, it turns out that it was working all along..

Thanks for the great service :)
Yabba Addict
Perkone
Caldari State
#153 - 2013-02-22 14:08:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Yabba Addict
Would it be possible to add in say the top 3 competitors prices if you aren't at the top of the queue, and to be able to select which price to beat. This could be used to update prices that have been beaten by someone with a stupidly low sell order that you don't want to beat, but want to be first to sell after he runs out.
Another idea I had would be to show your profit % on the update order price box with the new price.

Great app though, loving it so far

EDIT: And boo for Screegs, it's pretty clear he's a minority at CCP as they have been actively supporting scraping for years, does he think the export to file button which was introduced years ago was there for decoration?
Reah Loth
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#154 - 2013-02-24 01:12:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Reah Loth
@Yabba: You can already do this. When selecting an order under "Character orders" the bottom panel shows you the current orders for that item on market. You can right click any of them and select "copy recommended price, which gives you the price to beat that order.
Rizon Nihilon
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#155 - 2013-02-24 05:44:58 UTC
Hi. Very new user here -- to both Eve and Mentat. I've imported my character and see all the orders but I have a couple of really frustrating problems.

The first is minor. And now that I've restarted everything (and reloaded my character) seems to have taken care of itself. I wasn't able to stop the "fulfilled orders" from appearing by using filters unless I clicked "show only orders that require attention" (and then it seemed like I wasn't seeing all of my active orders). IDK. In any case... that seems to have resolved itself.

The second issue is really making me lose my mind though. "Data too old" continues to appear even after I've freshly run the market scanner and hit "cache import" + "file import" after exporting from my current orders page in game. How can the data be too old?! Is that accurate? Am I doing something wrong? When I update a price on an item that has been "overrode" the system corrects for that, and the "price status" for some items (which I'm doing nothing with except with the marker scanner in the same stations) says "ok" for the price status -- but for other items it still says the data is too old. I don't know if that is accurate or if I'm doing something wrong, or what.

I've tried just about everything imaginable with all the settings... but am at an impasse.
Reah Loth
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#156 - 2013-02-24 20:56:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Reah Loth
Rizon Nihilon wrote:


The second issue is really making me lose my mind though. "Data too old" continues to appear even after I've freshly run the market scanner and hit "cache import" + "file import" after exporting from my current orders page in game. How can the data be too old?! Is that accurate? Am I doing something wrong? When I update a price on an item that has been "overrode" the system corrects for that, and the "price status" for some items (which I'm doing nothing with except with the marker scanner in the same stations) says "ok" for the price status -- but for other items it still says the data is too old. I don't know if that is accurate or if I'm doing something wrong, or what.


This one had me wondering too! The data doesn't update unless it has changed. If you know you have scanned that item and it still says "data too old" it quite simply means that the data hasn't changed.

Edit: For the filters, there are 2 settings. If you don't want to see fulfilled orders un-check fulfilled orders in the "Status Filter". It is the button between "file import" and "show only".
Rizon Nihilon
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#157 - 2013-02-24 21:49:33 UTC
Reah Loth wrote:

This one had me wondering too! The data doesn't update unless it has changed. If you know you have scanned that item and it still says "data too old" it quite simply means that the data hasn't changed.

Edit: For the filters, there are 2 settings. If you don't want to see fulfilled orders un-check fulfilled orders in the "Status Filter". It is the button between "file import" and "show only".


Ok thanks. That's good to know. Wish I had known about that before spending hours trying to fix the problem. And everything seems to be working out just fine today anyway. Mentat is nice, but it really does seem a bit buggy and particular.

The filters thing seems to have worked itself out too, but I was using all the various settings you were suggesting and couldn't get "fulfilled" out of the list no matter which filters I was adding or subtracting. Like I say though... it seems to have worked itself out.

Now I'm just gonna go try to earn some ISK.
Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#158 - 2013-02-25 09:13:56 UTC
Erick Johnson wrote:
When I update the market details from cache Eve Mentat and I click the individual line item it will show me the price difference between what I am selling / buying at and the best competitor price.

So, you want to see difference between current price and closest competitor's price in a special column in orders table. Am I right?
I think it's more useful to add "Competitor's price" column and then difference can be expressed as [Price] - [Competitors price]
Erick Johnson wrote:
What I was hoping was to show / limit the orders that I have only been overbid on by set amounts so I can quickly update those, does that make more sense?

I'm not sure if it makes sense, because such criteria is not acceptable for all orders.
I think it's possible to achive this with filter. But it needs additional column like "Overbid amount".
The expression will be like:

[Overbid amount] > 10
or
[Overbid amount] / [Volume] > 0.1

I'll add both these columns in the next update.

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Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#159 - 2013-02-25 09:17:16 UTC
Yabba Addict wrote:
Would it be possible to add in say the top 3 competitors prices if you aren't at the top of the queue, and to be able to select which price to beat. This could be used to update prices that have been beaten by someone with a stupidly low sell order that you don't want to beat, but want to be first to sell after he runs out.

Thanks to Reah Loth for answering this question.

Yabba Addict wrote:
Another idea I had would be to show your profit % on the update order price box with the new price.

Planned.

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Thart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#160 - 2013-02-25 09:34:13 UTC
Does anybody know how to receive e-mail notification when there are new posts in this thread for instance?

EVE Mentat - true trade tool