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[Retribution 1.1] Armor Tanking 1.5

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Orlacc
#1341 - 2013-02-12 16:48:50 UTC
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1342 - 2013-02-12 16:54:03 UTC
Anyone mind explaining?

Dodixie > Hek

fukier
Brave Collective
#1343 - 2013-02-12 16:55:03 UTC
Palovana wrote:
Seriously, CCP, WTF?

It makes it sound like we're firing milk cannons at each other.

What's next? Armor Weetabixing?
Increases resistance to becoming soggy in milk by 2% per level.

"Armor Mass Reduction" or something like that sounds much better.


no no no... if they came up with normal names the first time then foxfour would be out of a job.
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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1344 - 2013-02-12 17:01:10 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Anyone mind explaining?

yeah, want to know wtf this guy is talking about too

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fukier
Brave Collective
#1345 - 2013-02-12 17:04:10 UTC  |  Edited by: fukier
Grimpak wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Anyone mind explaining?

yeah, want to know wtf this guy is talking about too


its the new skill that reduced mass for armor plates per level.

it reduces mass by 5% per level (which is not that much of an affect when all is said and done)

either 7.5% or 10% would actually be usefull

he thinks the name is silly and should be more direct.
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#1346 - 2013-02-12 17:05:52 UTC
Nothing gives a better finish on armor plates than bee wax.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#1347 - 2013-02-12 17:06:20 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Palovana wrote:
Seriously, CCP, WTF?


You are aware that honeycomb-armor has been used on real-world spacecraft, yes? It works quite well.

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Whitehound
#1348 - 2013-02-12 17:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
It is a new skill that is coming, to reduce the inertia of armor plates. "Honeycombing" means that something is structured similar to honey combs, thus reducing weight and inertia while keeping its stability. Or think of modern card boards.

Picture of a honeycomb structure.

And OP is being silly.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#1349 - 2013-02-12 17:12:38 UTC
It's a new skill on Sisi.
And I still think the skill name sounds like a bowl of cereal.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#1350 - 2013-02-12 17:14:55 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Whitehound wrote:

And OP is being silly.

Indeed.


Think of Tri-Wall cardboard: It's incredibly tough stuff, for something made almost entirely out of paper. Now think of something similar made out of advanced Beryllium-Titanium Composites, and imagine how tough it would be, whilst being lighter in weight than less-effective homogeneous plate armors.


Edit:
Palovana wrote:

And I still think the skill name sounds like a bowl of cereal.

Only to folks as are unfamiliar with materials engineering.

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Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#1351 - 2013-02-12 17:17:49 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
TehCloud wrote:
Quote:

Guess the only way for someone like me (Amarr only) to get same treatment is to hope that CCP hires an Amarr aficionado if such even exist after 2 years of Winmatar and the dawning of Gallantean superiority (we need a lightly derogatory term for that by the way, too many letters).


You know that the amarr resist bonus is still better for active tanking than a rep amount bonus?



This

And which ships benefit from this?

Oh, do you mean the Punisher, which can barely run its guns, a prop and a point?

How about the Maller, who needs a dual rep to compete? But with a dual rep setup it will empty its cap in 30 seconds, and if it replaces mids with cap boosters will fail to track anybody who closes in.

Or perhaps the Prophecy? Well that one actually works. That's one so far!

Perhaps the Abaddon? Hah, with a cap booster it can barely run its guns for more than a couple minutes. With reps going too, it'll cap out in a heartbeat?

Fozzie has been saying lately that they balance the bonus around the ships. Not the ships around the bonus.
Cebraio
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
#1352 - 2013-02-12 17:18:04 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Palovana wrote:
Seriously, CCP, WTF?


You are aware that honeycomb-armor has been used on real-world spacecraft, yes? It works quite well.

In the third link they use honeycomb and sandwich in the same sentence. Now that's silly.

CCP give us sandwich armor!
De'Veldrin
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
#1353 - 2013-02-12 17:19:51 UTC
ITT: People confused by common adjectives.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#1354 - 2013-02-12 17:21:18 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Cebraio wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Palovana wrote:
Seriously, CCP, WTF?


You are aware that honeycomb-armor has been used on real-world spacecraft, yes? It works quite well.

In the third link they use honeycomb and sandwich in the same sentence. Now that's silly.

CCP give us sandwich armor!

P
Another word for layered/composite armors. Like Chobham armor used in some of the toughest tanks around.

Yeah, I know you're just being goofy. But dammit, you've made me hungry now, and must be punished! Evil

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#1355 - 2013-02-12 17:31:20 UTC
Palovana wrote:

Maybe I'm just hungry because no one brought doughnuts to the office today.

A pod-worthy offense. Arm weapons!

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1356 - 2013-02-12 17:48:33 UTC
Starts making notes about sandwich armor......

mmmmmmmmmm

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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#1357 - 2013-02-12 17:49:59 UTC
fukier wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Anyone mind explaining?

yeah, want to know wtf this guy is talking about too


its the new skill that reduced mass for armor plates per level.

it reduces mass by 5% per level (which is not that much of an affect when all is said and done)

either 7.5% or 10% would actually be usefull

he thinks the name is silly and should be more direct.



You think a 25% reduction in mass addition from armour plates isn't useful?

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fukier
Brave Collective
#1358 - 2013-02-12 17:54:22 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
fukier wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Anyone mind explaining?

yeah, want to know wtf this guy is talking about too


its the new skill that reduced mass for armor plates per level.

it reduces mass by 5% per level (which is not that much of an affect when all is said and done)

either 7.5% or 10% would actually be usefull

he thinks the name is silly and should be more direct.



You think a 25% reduction in mass addition from armour plates isn't useful?


i have not done the math but in the thread about tanking 1.5 they suggested that the results were lackluster...

though i could be wrong as i am posting this on pure conjecture.

though i still think that the skill should affect armor layered energized things by 3% per level that way a tech II one would add 30% armor... now to me that would be a usefull skill.
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#1359 - 2013-02-12 17:58:26 UTC
Can anyone explain to me what the **** op is going on about?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

fukier
Brave Collective
#1360 - 2013-02-12 17:59:56 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what the **** op is going on about?


i find reading the thread before posting usually helps.
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.