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Paid name Change and Corp history removal?

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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#341 - 2013-02-12 08:51:45 UTC
close this already devs, the answer is NO. this idea goes against all that is EVE.
if someone wants a new name and clean history buy a new account. end of !
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#342 - 2013-02-12 09:16:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Caitlyn Tufy
CCP Falcon wrote:

I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this.

I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases.


I don't mind a paid name and even race/sex change, provided, as you said, the past identities are freely available. We don't need another Broker, do we? ;)

Though, to be honest, I don't really think it's needed and it would be too easily abused anyway.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#343 - 2013-02-12 09:28:00 UTC
ISD Praetoxx wrote:

Afterall, when you guys purchase a new character, you want to make your own history, not inherit it!

Alternatively you could always wait for the 'Power of 2' offer when it comes around again.


I am opposed to this idea.

If you want to make your own history you make a new character. If you buy a character you are buying it with all its legacy (so pick carefully), which may or may not involve good number of ex-corpmates that would like to see you dead regardless if its profitable or not.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#344 - 2013-02-12 10:32:07 UTC
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
close this already devs, the answer is NO. this idea goes against all that is EVE.
if someone wants a new name and clean history buy a new account. end of !



Thank you for contributing your opinion, it is part of what makes these forums great. However please respect the rights of others to express THEIR opinions.

I am obviously a supporter of name changes, I am even a fan of name change history through an API function. I do not however, have any interest in buying a character out of the Bazaar until this detail is sorted out.

Now with 100% less Troll.
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#345 - 2013-02-12 13:22:32 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
close this already devs, the answer is NO. this idea goes against all that is EVE.
if someone wants a new name and clean history buy a new account. end of !



Thank you for contributing your opinion, it is part of what makes these forums great. However please respect the rights of others to express THEIR opinions.

I am obviously a supporter of name changes, I am even a fan of name change history through an API function. I do not however, have any interest in buying a character out of the Bazaar until this detail is sorted out.



you're welcome, my opinion is needed, if you had read back through the thread you'd have seen i've given mine a few times.
so your a fan of changing your name, well it's rather easy man, buy a new one from bazaar and deal with the history it has on it, or,,, but a new account and create a history to your liking.

name and history changes on current accounts is something that should never ever be allowed.

you made your bed,,,,, now sleep in it !
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#346 - 2013-02-12 16:33:05 UTC
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
close this already devs, the answer is NO. this idea goes against all that is EVE.
if someone wants a new name and clean history buy a new account. end of !


You sound scared.

When people feel the need to say "end of" at the end of their sentence you know it is because they are scared.

Actually a Dev replied to this topic and said it was something CCP were perhaps considering for the future but were not certain yet. So you are both scared and incorrect.
Taihbea
Doomheim
#347 - 2013-02-12 17:37:05 UTC
Leave all previous corps history but let name be changed once per account.
Althose P0WnZoRBoYZ named bazaar accounts are ******* stupid. I want their skills not a ******** name.
Aion Amarra
#348 - 2013-02-12 18:27:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Aion Amarra
Assuming a name change history and no corp history wipe, as many people already suggested, I'd be all for it.

Named this char when I was 15, the last name isn't even a reference to Amarrians. It's ridiculous.

Also the initials are A.A.

Been feeling the strong urge to rename it for five years counting.
Sol Weinstein
Lunatic Warfare Federation
#349 - 2013-02-12 19:44:51 UTC
This [completlely gamebreaking] FEATURE and [proposed way too often, without realizing the Consequences™ of Choice™] IDEA still resides in General Discussion?

Interesting.

Thank you.
Huufalem Oskold
Arm and Hammer Industries
#350 - 2013-02-12 19:54:06 UTC
Honestly I think name change is brilliantine and the fact eve doesn't have it is ridiculousness! Think of the possibility, I mean for starters people change their names in real life all the time why not in Eve as well? Also the arability to infiltrate and obtain information would be super fun under you new identity.
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#351 - 2013-02-13 12:41:26 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:
close this already devs, the answer is NO. this idea goes against all that is EVE.
if someone wants a new name and clean history buy a new account. end of !


You sound scared.

When people feel the need to say "end of" at the end of their sentence you know it is because they are scared.

Actually a Dev replied to this topic and said it was something CCP were perhaps considering for the future but were not certain yet. So you are both scared and incorrect.



get a grip on yourself, concerned yes, scared,, lmfao,,, are you smoking something.
look it's real simple, EVE is very very different to every single other game online, nothing is even close to what CCP have given us in EVE. name and history changes would have a huge impact on game play.
i can't speak for all, i can only speak for me, my opinion stands as i have stated.

NO to name changes, NO to history changes.

and just for you Roll

end of.
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#352 - 2013-02-13 14:58:32 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this.

I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases.

Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea.

I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already Smile



I feel if it could only be tied to the purchase of the charecter it would be great. The toons history should be tied to the person that played the toon and created its history not the person that buys the toon. On the flip side should you really expect to be able to sell a toon that has a crappy history?
Zendon Taredi
Tier Four Technologies
#353 - 2013-02-13 15:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Zendon Taredi
Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. Freaking nightmare. I do background checks for a mid-size alliance.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#354 - 2013-02-15 00:07:03 UTC
Would be easy to put previous name as an alias. Should show up in a character search as well (old and new).

yk
Hazzard
Chaotic Dynamics
#355 - 2013-02-15 17:36:06 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
The problem:

Everytime I look for a character on the Bazaar he turns out to be a corp thief or otherwise unwelcome.

Solution:

Offer paid name changes that include a full history wipe.

$100 per character, would reduce abuse of the mechanic, maybe even only allow it on transferred characters.


The Bazaar is not nearly as awesome as it could be, make it that awesome!



Awful idea. If the char does something bad the history should follow.
Goran Konjich
Krompany
#356 - 2013-03-18 12:04:20 UTC
Repeating myself again:

Namechange = 2PLEX every 3 years

History = no change, always visible on char info
Old name = no change, always visible on char info

Simple.

I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.
Doctor Ape MD
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#357 - 2013-03-18 14:29:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Doctor Ape MD
I think having a name change service is a good idea, as long as there is a record of it somewhere in the API along with a corp history. I mean, I don't think I should look at somebody and see 'Super Badboy (aka xxXxB@dboyxXxx) or whatever with a 'show info', but I should be able to see it with an API key. I also think the 'old corp history' should be stored in the API but not immediately visible to other random people. Let that person explain the change to their new corp (bazaar transaction, hated old name, whatever).

I mean, I can change my name in RL with no problem, so what's the big deal?

Personally, the fact that it could enable nefarious people to do more wacky corp hijinks doesn't really bother me. It just means corps will have to be more careful in how they recruit. This is Eve after all. Maybe set some limitation that allows one name change at character creation and one more every couple of years (sort of like a remap) to stop people from abusing it.

I would say that, either way, if CCP is going to do it, they should just do it right. None of this $100 dollar to change name stuff. Either do it and make it accessible for most capsuleers (a PLEX or similar fee), or don't bother with it at all.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#358 - 2013-03-18 16:16:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Milan Nantucket
Instead of a name change do a mind transfer... basically charge for transferring all the skills from one toon to the other. Old toon simply starts at 0. New toon starts with the skills that were transferred.

Call it a breakthrough in clone technology or something... when your podded your mind technically transfers to a new clone.
Tiberius StarGazer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#359 - 2013-03-18 17:16:16 UTC
Personally, you buy the "persona" of that particular toon, his skills, history, and other useful information. It wont matter to the other people on the end of their computers that this "name" has someone different behind it, at the end of the day, that charecter is that charecter.

I would always aproach buying a toon the same way as you buy a second hand car, you vet its history, you check the servicing and make sure its road worthy. Afterall you want to make sure your not buying a stolen car or one thats been in a crash dont you?

If you dont want to play as a corporate theif, then make sure your not buying one.

Instead, I suggest that maybe the vetting ability for people either buying AND recruiting new players to their corporation be improved so that people can either

i) Check the history of their charecter before purchase or

ii) Allow other people see that the charecters ownership has changed.

However, I can imagine ii would be opened up to a whole load of abuse with people passing around the same charecter for whatever requirements they have.
marVLs
#360 - 2013-03-18 17:39:57 UTC
Corp history cleaning? Yup