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Kabbalistic Numerology in Market Speculation - Unfair Advantage?

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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#1 - 2013-02-12 15:51:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Hurt
E.v.e. markets have reached a point of "maturity" wherein they are driven less by fundamentals and end-user demand, and more by the whims of whichever Marketeer decides to manipulate the price of a security for his own gain, with no intent of ever utilizing the product in question. Something I have recently come across in trading has been the use (whether in amounts, or prices) is the repetitive use of the number "4".

This is being used by the so-called "Jewbal" (not my word, just a cheeky name they came up for themselves since they're all Jewish irl) to aid in their herding of other market participants in or out of a market, and I believe the constant use of this specific number has it's roots in Kabbalistic Numerology (4 representing the generative force, or growth & fencundity). I would like to add the disclaimer that I am not biased against anyone's religious beliefs, but I have to take real issue with the use of subtle forces in a video game; this is a far cry from any of the usual definitions of "cheating" like botting or hacking, but it certainly gives some players an unfair advantage by virtue of being well-versed in esoteric knowledge that has nothing to do with E.v.e.
White Tree
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-02-12 15:55:49 UTC
You're not Kyoon.

Former member of CSM6.
Orlacc
#3 - 2013-02-12 15:59:25 UTC
0/10

Bordering on misogynistic....

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2013-02-12 15:59:32 UTC
Bad poster is bad.

☼

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fukier
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-02-12 15:59:42 UTC  |  Edited by: fukier
Thomas Hurt wrote:
E.v.e. markets have reached a point of "maturity" wherein they are driven less by fundamentals and end-user demand, and more by the whims of whichever Marketeer decides to manipulate the price of a security for his own gain, with no intent of ever utilizing the product in question. Something I have recently come across in trading has been the use (whether in amounts, or prices) is the repetitive use of the number "4".

This is being used by the so-called "Jewbal" (not my word, just a cheeky name they came up for themselves since they're all Jewish irl) to aid in their herding of other market participants in or out of a market, and I believe the constant use of this specific number has it's roots in Kabbalistic Numerology (4 representing the generative force, or growth & fencundity). I would like to add the disclaimer that I am not biased against anyone's religious beliefs, but I have to take real issue with the use of subtle forces in a video game; this is a far cry from any of the usual definitions of "cheating" like botting or hacking, but it certainly gives some players an unfair advantage by virtue of being well-versed in esoteric knowledge that has nothing to do with E.v.e.



wow from a guy complaining about homophobic slurs just yesterday you then drop antisemetic slurs...

congrats...

enjoy the locked thread.

CCP Navigator wrote:
Ok, here is what I will say about the use of 'Jewgold', Jewing' and other terms of that nature. They don't add anything of value to a discussion. The very terminology is offensive to many and completely unnecessary. There are many of our players who are Jewish and they should not be subjected to phrasing which makes them and others feel uncomfortable.


looks like this is a duplicate troll thread from last year

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191319

my only question is why you thought a locked thread deserved to be reopened
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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-02-12 15:59:48 UTC
... gets out the hoo-doo pouches and rock salt...



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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#7 - 2013-02-12 15:59:56 UTC
Orlacc wrote:

Bordering on misogynistic....


You may want to google that word
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-02-12 16:05:47 UTC
Unfortunately this doesn't appear covered by the EULA, although I believe that the usage of witchcraft is illegal in some countries and that if it is discovered that a person from one of these countries is disregarding the law it is CCP's moral obligation to contact the local police force
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-02-12 16:09:21 UTC
EVERYONE FEAR THE 5 JEWBAL BANKERS AND THEIR DEATHSTAR OF DAVID!!!!!

Being good at something isn't cheating, go watch 2081
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-02-12 16:10:58 UTC
of course if it was specifically disallowed by the eula (and it should) ccp should also seriously consider hiring an inhouse wizard as part of the security team. it is appalling that they have not yet made such a move and you can rest assured i will be mailing the csm as soon as i draw up a suitably angry letter
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#11 - 2013-02-12 16:13:06 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
of course if it was specifically disallowed by the eula (and it should) ccp should also seriously consider hiring an inhouse wizard as part of the security team. it is appalling that they have not yet made such a move and you can rest assured i will be mailing the csm as soon as i draw up a suitably angry letter


I would politely request that you please refrain from belittling anyone's religious beliefs (and I'm sure the mods would as well); I'm just asking whether it is really within everyone's best interests for these kinds of things to be allowed in the game.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-02-12 16:13:09 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
E.v.e. markets have reached a point of "maturity" wherein they are driven less by fundamentals and end-user demand, and more by the whims of whichever Marketeer decides to manipulate the price of a security for his own gain, with no intent of ever utilizing the product in question. Something I have recently come across in trading has been the use (whether in amounts, or prices) is the repetitive use of the number "4".

This is being used by the so-called "Jewbal" (not my word, just a cheeky name they came up for themselves since they're all Jewish irl) to aid in their herding of other market participants in or out of a market, and I believe the constant use of this specific number has it's roots in Kabbalistic Numerology (4 representing the generative force, or growth & fencundity). I would like to add the disclaimer that I am not biased against anyone's religious beliefs, but I have to take real issue with the use of subtle forces in a video game; this is a far cry from any of the usual definitions of "cheating" like botting or hacking, but it certainly gives some players an unfair advantage by virtue of being well-versed in esoteric knowledge that has nothing to do with E.v.e.


Congratulations,

.2% of the world population is jewish and a sliver of that is playing EVE online. You have discovered the worlds smallest conspiracy.

In other news man bites dog.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#13 - 2013-02-12 16:14:39 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
E.v.e. markets have reached a point of "maturity" wherein they are driven less by fundamentals and end-user demand, and more by the whims of whichever Marketeer decides to manipulate the price of a security for his own gain, with no intent of ever utilizing the product in question. Something I have recently come across in trading has been the use (whether in amounts, or prices) is the repetitive use of the number "4".

This is being used by the so-called "Jewbal" (not my word, just a cheeky name they came up for themselves since they're all Jewish irl) to aid in their herding of other market participants in or out of a market, and I believe the constant use of this specific number has it's roots in Kabbalistic Numerology (4 representing the generative force, or growth & fencundity). I would like to add the disclaimer that I am not biased against anyone's religious beliefs, but I have to take real issue with the use of subtle forces in a video game; this is a far cry from any of the usual definitions of "cheating" like botting or hacking, but it certainly gives some players an unfair advantage by virtue of being well-versed in esoteric knowledge that has nothing to do with E.v.e.


But I thought four represented death.
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#14 - 2013-02-12 16:15:12 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:

Congratulations,

.2% of the world population is jewish and a sliver of that is playing EVE online. You have discovered the worlds smallest conspiracy.

In other news man bites dog.


You may have misinterpreted me, I'm certainly not suggesting any sort of 'conspiracy'; this is an open and readily ascertainable ingame practice that I take personal issue with, and wish to discuss.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-02-12 16:20:33 UTC
I'm not intending to belittle any wizards - I love wizards and in fact some of my best friends are wizards. If I have made some kind of mistake and insulted any kind of occult practicioner including trans-magicians or the sufferers of ancient Egyptian curses I apologise fully
Myrissa Kistel
Planetary Logistics
#16 - 2013-02-12 16:25:30 UTC
The antisemitism of the goons is astounding. Its been going on for so long its just part of the culture now.
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#17 - 2013-02-12 16:28:29 UTC
Myrissa Kistel wrote:
The antisemitism of the goons is astounding. Its been going on for so long its just part of the culture now.


I have literally no idea what you're referring to; I've been a member for about a week now (finally got in Lol) and have yet to encounter anything like that.
Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#18 - 2013-02-12 16:58:17 UTC
Who let David Icke have an EVE account?

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ISD Alliance
#19 - 2013-02-12 17:33:59 UTC
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