Out of Pod Experience

I think we all forget about another genre I have never seen in an MMO. What about lasers, magic, dragons AND spaceships all in the same universe?

It is not as corny as you think. Many of the cartoons and comic books some of us grew up with had exactly that. Imagine something like that with Eve-like sandbox, avatars, and spaceships.

eve would get more subscribers if incarna/walking in stations came to be... and if dust was on pc.

a lot of people don't like looking at spaceships, they prefer "barbies" aka avatars like most mmos support.

eve lacks the social factor of mmos, you can't emote or dance or have pet battles... that is why

I let Buzz Aldrin know on his website about my posting in our Forums of his new Space Program game, so we might see a bit of attention from there....maybe.

Any possible way to clarify what you are saying ?

Not harshing, but it sounds and reads contradictory.

i was saying that it's not a fluke that one new EVE player came from dust. out of a game that hit the PS3 pretty solidly (and are also even seeing the RPers from EVE using dust characters, and learning about EVE through the game) there is a huge chance of an influx of newer players to EVE. especially when we're talking to them

Funny you should give that as an example.
Some things are more appealing to more people in just one or two geographical regions, but the exact opposite in just about every other place. Internationally, I'd almost be willing to bet that there might be more volleyball fans than baseball fans (since the vast majority of baseball fans are confined to the USA, and most of the rest of the world wouldn't even give a rat's ass about that sport if it wasn't for all those baseball movies, and even then, we're more likely to just ignore the movies instead).



Depends on PRECISELY what you mean by "a game like EVE-Online".

If you JUST mean "a sci-fi game", then the answer is almost certainly a resounding YES.
It happened before, it will quite likely happen again eventually.
Heck, there's rumours of a sci-fi Blizzard MMO, so, eh, you know, it might not even be that far into the future.
So, yes, a sci-fi game (or something you could conceivably just about call science-fiction, anyway) will almost certainly eventually be the industry leader, at least for a while.
Side-note: if they ever come out with a Halo MMO for the consoles and PC combined, hang on to your pants, that will be a wild ride.

However, if you mean something more along the lines of "complex sandbox with little safeguards and relatively high potential death penalties", then sadly the answer is most likely a muted "naaah".
Most people couldn't really handle that on a long term basis, and such games are almost by design relegated to a somewhat niche status.
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad about being a niche game, especially an usually expanding niche game, but you can't expect that game to "dominate the industry".

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EVE will most likely never draw a large audience like WOW does (or did i guess, last i heard their numbers were declining?).
Spaceships and so on simply dont appeal to as many people and im sure that for some they are afraid of the "label" they will get if they admit to enjoying something with space ships. Atleast for me when i was younger spaceships and so on got you the label geek/nerd and was not ment in a nice way.

Yet i ended up playing EVE as my first online game, second computer game (first being Heroes of might and magic 30

But at one point i did need a break from EVE (yes it happens) and i gave WOW a try.. Had fun for a while, but eventually it became more.. stale and found my self logging on just to sit an camp a rare to get a new pet or a mount. Thus i ended back up in EVE full time for a couple more years, but this summer the need for a break reoccured.
The problem with WOW is that even if its fantasy its simply to.. nice. Bright colors and makes you think about fluffy clouds and badly made cartoons you used to watch when you were a kid.

But i actually lucked out. The secret world became public a few weeks after my break started and i found it to be a breath of fresh air!
Its more fantasy based (Zombies, vampires, werewolfes, ghosts, magic and so on) but at the same time its dark, really dark. Not in the scamming and everyone is after you kind of dark like EVE ofc but the atmosphere. Its truly an amazing game and i still play it when i just need to not think about EVE for a few hours.

But even a game like this does not attract the regular WOW crowd. Maybe because of how complex and overwhelming things like the skill wheel is, or maybe its simply because few people want something "in between".

Personally i thnk EVE got lucky and came with the right product at the right time. As far as i know there was no real sci -fi mmo out at the time, and if i remember correctly people who had played E&B got a special offer if they subbed? Or atleast a mail pointing them to EVE. Honestly its been so long i cant remember anymore...

Anyway... Most people want either one or the other, and when you first have gotten used to one thing its hard to adapt to a completly different style/atmosphere long term.

I guess it will just be called 'Fantasy' till someone thinks of something better.

OMG that is the best series ever written in the 20th Century, but nobody ever believes me until they read it !

It's really hard to get even a critical handle on it from the standpoint of where to even begin.

I've read it through at least 9 times including "The Urth of the New Sun" and I'm still not sure I fully understand it.

But that's OK, and that's what I love about it.