EVE General Discussion

So CCP are going to touch POSes to some extent this summer - as yet we don't know how. So, here is the first thing they should do in my opinion that would have a large and positive effect on the game:

When a POS runs out of fuel, a 48 hr timer starts to countdown, after which the tower unanchors.

Simple, effective, won't require much coding.

At present there are hundreds and hundreds of offline anchored POS towers littering high-sec, this is preventing new players in particular from setting up their own POSes. A rookie 2 man corp really isn't going to want to spend an entire weekend shooting at a large tower with cruisers, just so they can use the space, and they shouldn't have to.

Yes, I know all about the war dec system but the purpose of it should be to forceably remove other players from their territory, not so that you can remove the unused relics of people who no stopped playing the game years ago.

Furthermore, it would create a whole new profession in the game - "POS hunting". It could be super profitable to find an offline (and unanchored) tower surrounded by assembly arrays and labs. A player could make his fortune with a lucky find.

I can't see any drawback to this, it would make sense from a mechanics and lore perspective (would Concord really allow space to be commandeered but unused), it would be fair to new players and would help to maintain the concept of Eve as a game with consequences. It would also create some great stories and tears.

Make it happen CCP!

Yeah, the only negative would be to the POS market as prices would drop with people stealing towers rather than buying them - so rather than unanchor the towers should initiate a self-destruct timer. As soon as the POS runs out of fuel, the corp would receive a mail saying "48hr self-destruct has been activated" and they would then have that amount of time to refuel and stop the timer.

Another huge benefit to this would be the fights in low and null sec that would occur as a result. The 48hr timer would be visible in space from the moon, so anyone finding the tower would be able to workout when the self-destruct is due to happen. Let's say three different corps spot the tower and all turn up to claim the goods - result: huge fight, with the corp holding the field taking the loot.

I think it would be great.

Or Allow derelict poses to be fueled and transferred to a new corp.

Big time!

Well. being able to put up a POS rather than that option being exercised by players no longer playing the game was one of the reasons I speciically gave, so I'm not sure what your point is. But please accept this pat on the head for trying to make a contribution.

For the rest; I don't like the idea of the tower being transferrable because it would affect the market and it would also mean the new owner would avoid all the work of having to set up the POS.

Seems reasonable to me. Why all the huff and puff about POSes when you can take them down with game mechanics now.

[/quote]Some people just want an easy ride.

The argument of "but it'll take 2 of use hours to take it down in our cruisers" doesn't stand with me either.

Get more friends, get bigger ships.

Use a bunch of gank fit Oracles with T1 crystals and semi-afk it if you're really that lazy.[/quote]


Yeah, such an easy ride. Grinding up the standings, training the skills, researching the BPOs, getting cheap datacores, minerals, etc, then building items and withstanding market fluctuations to be able to sell them for a profit, all whilst having to afford to set up, fuel and possibly defend the POS.

Yep, it's certainly easy! Better then to allow people who haven't played the game for literally years to still dictate whether a new player is capable of entering industry on a meaningful level!

Please understand, I am in null-sec and can put up as many POSes as I want, I also have one in high sec. It's not really about me - it's more of a benefit for newer players who as yet lack the power and infrastructure to go around declaring wars and shooting POSes. And, as I have said before, they shouldn't have to. It's a ridiculous mechanic that redundant POSes simply linger ad infinitum. Personally, I would like to benefit from other people's carelessness and steal their POS goods - it's the sort of accountability that Eve was built on.

In addition to that, I have listed several other real improvements to the game as a result of the self-destructing offline POS. In return, no-one has thus far put forth a credible argument against, aside from "I'm a miserable, bitter old vet and I don't like change". I hope CCP seriously consider this idea.

The fact I own over 55 high sec towers and can't find space fore more with out having to blow up a tower belonging to a 1 man corp that has not logged on it over 2 years aka gray man pic.

I fully support this, just so I no longer have to spend 6 hours in a fleet of abbadons killing an offline large pos because grinding HP sucks.

I dont really think it's a needed change outside of highsec.
If it is brought in, the timer should be more along the lines of a week+, definitely not just 2 days.

And you think this is an original idea?

Of all the pos problems that are crying out to be fixed, this is a LOOOOOONG way down the list.

If you can't be arsed scouting high sec to find a free moon, or taking the tower by force, why do you want CCP to do your work for you.

there are lots of pos problems more important than "wahh I can't find a free moon, CEECEEPEEEE pleeze fix"