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What is the effect of tackling a ship with more than one web stasifier?
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LittleBo Peep
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-02-11 22:40:47 UTC
Is the benefit negated because stasifier slows based upon a percentage? Or is there some sort of cumulative effect which will bring enemies to an utter crawl?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2013-02-11 22:50:26 UTC
Diminishing returns if I recall correctly

The first web will provide the full effect... the second will provide ~80% of the full effect... the third ~50%... and so on.

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Merouk Baas
#3 - 2013-02-11 22:53:22 UTC
Cumulative.

If you get webified by 5 NPCs you will be slowed down to a crawl of 5 m/s or somesuch.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-02-11 22:53:40 UTC
Each webifier brings the speed of the webbed target down.

However, stasis webifiers have a stacking penalty, so any more then 3 webs on a target is just wasting webs or wasting mid-slots.

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Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-02-11 22:55:08 UTC
Stasis Webifier. Smile

You could fit more than one and have results, yes. Some ships even have a bonus to that effect.

However, generally you'll only fit one because you need those mid fitting slots for other stuff, like an Afterburner (AB) or Micro Warp Drive (MWD) or Shield Tanking modules, if you are so inclined.
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-02-11 23:12:31 UTC
I like 'web stasifier'.
Sounds like something Bond would be sent to destroy.

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Merouk Baas
#7 - 2013-02-11 23:14:49 UTC
Web Stasifier would quickly become Web Satisfier, and the internets are never satisfied.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2013-02-12 00:03:42 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
Cumulative.

If you get webified by 5 NPCs you will be slowed down to a crawl of 5 m/s or somesuch.

NPCs still use the stasis webs of old. Reduce velocity by 90% and no stacking penalties.

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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-02-12 00:10:54 UTC
A stetson wabifier...?
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#10 - 2013-02-12 00:58:03 UTC

Read up on stacking penalties....

Stasis webifiers have a cumulative affect that is modified by stacking penalties...

Using a meta4 webs...

The first web reduces the target's velocity by 60%....
The second web is only 87% effective because of the stacking penalty, and will reduce the target's velocity by an additional 52.2%
The third web is only 57% effective because of the stacking penalty, and will reduce the target's velocity by an additional 34.2%
The fouth module will be 28% effective...

So,
with 1x web, the target will go 40% of it's max velocity...
with 2x web, the target will go 19.12% of it's max velocity...
with 3x web, the target will go 12.58% of it's max velocity...
with 4x web, the target will go 10.47% of it's max velocity....

As you can see.... after the third web, additional webs only have a marginal effect....

Tracking disruptors and Target Painters also have stacking penalites....
Points, Scrams, and ECM do not have stacking penalties... although they operate on a different principle..

The items you fit to your ship that modify the same attribute also receive stacking penalties...
Example: Armor Hardeners, EANM's, Nanofibers, Damage Amplifiers, Tracking Enhancers/Computers, etc...

Some items are especially valuable because they do NOT suffer stacking penalties: DCU's, Trimarks, etc...
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#11 - 2013-02-12 01:38:12 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
Cumulative.

If you get webified by 5 NPCs you will be slowed down to a crawl of 5 m/s or somesuch.


This is a valid point.

If you're talking about a _player_ webbing something, see the other posts regarding diminishing returns (1/.87/.57/.28/...), but if you're talking NPCs, straight-up multiplicative stacking.

NPCs also cheat by using pre-diminishing-returns EWar, so their target dampers, for example, are absurdly crippling instead of kind of annoying.
LittleBo Peep
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-02-12 02:22:03 UTC
Frank Millar wrote:
Stasis Webifier. Smile


Yeah, there is no point in me even trying to hide my noobness! Oops

Anyway... thanks everyone for all the comments. I think I understand now.