Warfare & Tactics

That's what you get when dealing with noob-whiners. We select few pro-whiners have been complaining about the wallet-shift in FW focus since the get go!

As for the OP: Cloaks are a non-issue, comparable to the generic farmer (stabbed or not) who continually runs. The problem is that they are dictating just about everything in FW through their actions .. thank CCP for tying everything into the plexing mechanic while at the same time making it farm friendly.

Time-to-kill for the rats to prevent further spawns should be drastically reduced, provided the goal remains the same, to encourage bringing an appropriate ship.
Novice - 30s
Small - 45s
Medium - 60s
Large - 90s
Daredevils will flood the skies, but I'd rather have ships that scream "come at me bro!" doing the farming, yielding a noticeable ISK loss when caught, than 'insert generic T1 frig' doing the same at no risk whatsoever.

But nothing so "major" is likely to happen until next year as it is null's time be blessed by Icelandic tunnel-vision .. nine months of FarmVille™ plus what will be twelve months of FarmWars™ .. me'thinks CCP will owe us big time!

This is where I am at as well. For pvp fw just reduces your pvp opportunities by reducing your ability to dock/reship and limitting your targets in plexes.

FW does offer lots and lots of pve/farming opportunities to anyone who has an alt over 2 days old. CCP decided to make it a pve game. Might as well take advantage of it.

The gallente and minmatar pretty much blew their lead, so farming amarr/caldari makes the most sense for several reasons.

Judging from your forum posts, you seem to have extensive, in-depth knowledge about the whole and very complex FW system.

Which clearly shows it really isn't all that hard to understand.

Well they listened to certain players. Others were ignored. But yes, we have the farmville we do now due to the players ccp chose to listen to.

it sure is... but that alone is not a valid reason for changing the game mechanics.

I do not know why the OP is whining here. In the past low-sec was waste land and everyone was whining that there is no one to kill. Now with current FW mechanics there are millions of targets to go for. What do you want more?

By the way the only solution to cloaki alt hordes is to enable to warp in cloaked into a plex again, as it was in the past. But the other solution have been mentioned before which are basically patience or tricking the alt.

So, who exactly wanted farmhorde in the first place? I can't really remember anyone from GalMil being in favour of it.

On Gal/Cal front farming system has always favoured Caldari (remember the imbalanced NPCs even after removal of ECM), and they have always been more active at it, presumably because of more lucrative LP store items. At the same time, warzone control was held in balance by minmatar farmers who had nowhere to plex due to the state of Min/Amarr front. Gallente were never really big on plexing - that's a fact which does not work well for us, but still it is a fact.

What we're seeing atm is a massive influx of farmers and bored (ex.?) nullsecers into CalMil which obviously tips the sov scales in favour of Caldari and coupled with Minmatar alts going back to their space or switching sides only makes things worse for GalMil. However, while being at lower tiers is annoying, I really don't see the warzone shift as anything tragic per se. What is bad are the reason which make the zone shift, but that's been discussed into more then enough length and there's no need to repeat everything that's been said. While OP's request is fairly unreasonable (cloaking in plexes has more uses than protecting farmers), I understand his frustration with the lack of positive changes.

Unfortunately, CCP have listened to player base regarding the shortcomings of plexing and then decided to throw all the good ideas (several single npc spawns with final rat being fairly tough one in accordance with plex size, timer reseting/counting back on warping out/cloaking, cyno jammers, sov industry improvements etc.) out of the window, replacing them with Farmville 2.0 in form of that laughable NPC you have to kill atm. Obviously this system is frustrating for anyone who doesn’t think farming should be a selling point for FW while at the same time it provides farmer-trollers material for their forum 'contributions' to constructive dialogue.

And 1 person's inability to adapt to a given situation still doesn't make it an issue. Nice try tho.

Sorry, too busy getting arse handed to me in Heyd to worry about afk cloaky plexers in the hinterlands.

It is incredibly fun and awesome. Have fun staying docked up and bitter