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Offensive/Rude Names, Does Anyone Report Them?

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-02-11 14:23:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Crumplecorn wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
But actually, historically it is quite true.
So when society deemed slavery ok, slavery was ok?

Calling me a troll won't change the fact that you're talking ****.


The reality is not so straight forward. See, there is the majority and then their are the powerful. When the majority's and the powerful's ideology coincide then there is change to reflect that. When the majority's and the powerful's ideology are opposed then there is a great chance that the majority will lose the ideological fight.

History is replete with such examples, ancient and contemporary. It is only the rare occasion that the majority's ideology wins out over the powerful's...those times are usually known as revolutions and heads typically roll.

As to slavery, the majority...not being able to afford them, having their jobs taken by them and at great risk to themselves to become one...long ago thought it was bad. It's only in the last 200 - 300 years that the powerful....er...'society' deemed it to be so and therefore rid itself (haha) of slavery. The reality here is, if you live in a society where a great number of jobs only offer enough income to pay for living expenses and in many cases not even, the true question is have we really ended slavery. The answer to that is obviously, no. We're all slaves. The difference in modern times is that our masters had only rid themselves of the liability of ownership. Some of us are lucky enough to be less slavish than others. But, all in all, contemporary western civilization is pretty good for the masses when compared to history.

Don't ban me, bro!

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#42 - 2013-02-11 14:28:27 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
See, there is the majority and then their are the powerful.
While this is a nice summary of how/when/why change happens, it has no bearing on whether popularity or might actually make things right.

(They don't)

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Shirehorse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2013-02-11 14:30:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Shirehorse
I think Steven Fry summed it up pretty well.



'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fooking what?' —Stephen Fry
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-02-11 14:56:36 UTC
In the four years I've been playing eve, I think I've used the report character name function twice. It's a game, and we're all here to ahve fun, and sometimes, that means being a jackass - just because you can. That said, there are certain lines you shouldn't cross, mostly involving children.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Gerald Taric
NEO DYNAMICS
#45 - 2013-02-11 15:28:42 UTC
TL;DR:

Your name is your figurehead/signboard.


long version:

I use the names and the text in the Bio section of others in order to gues the kind of person the player is or at least want's to be.

Choosing a reasonably name shows some respect towards other players, and (at least for me) indicates, that the player is willing to play this "world simulation" with some more passion than "pew-pew-i-do-not-care-about-any-others".

If the person has chosen a ridiculous or disrespectful name, he or she cannot expect me thinking he or she being a respectable or serious person. (well, maybe that was the goal of that person?)

But as long ad the person did not choosed an really offending name, like for example the name of an mass murdering dictator, something degrading, inhumane, very feculent or hatefull, i just choose to ignore them. As far as i remember i have not reported any name in EVE up to now.

And indeed: It is difficult to determine, what is offending and what is not. This is an international game, played within different societies with different beliefes.

My advice: Just report only those names, which are (in your opinion) really obviously offending - if you think, it should be reported.
Orbital Dyke
Doomheim
#46 - 2013-02-11 15:29:30 UTC
Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-02-11 16:26:50 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
In the four years I've been playing eve, I think I've used the report character name function twice. It's a game, and we're all here to ahve fun, and sometimes, that means being a jackass - just because you can. That said, there are certain lines you shouldn't cross, mostly involving children.


Is the line "no few than 600 yards from any preschool,highschool or public play area"?
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-02-11 16:28:13 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
De'Veldrin wrote:
In the four years I've been playing eve, I think I've used the report character name function twice. It's a game, and we're all here to ahve fun, and sometimes, that means being a jackass - just because you can. That said, there are certain lines you shouldn't cross, mostly involving children.


Is the line "no few than 600 yards from any preschool,highschool or public play area"?

Nah, it's defined by a fractal in 4-dimensional space.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#49 - 2013-02-11 16:41:46 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
But actually, historically it is quite true.
So when society deemed slavery ok, slavery was ok?



It was quite obviously OK by some societies. In fact it still is.

You are confused by the semantics of the words OK and wrong, which are malleable within both sides of any issue.

This is the effect of the downfall of the education system the past few decades folks. Welcome to it.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#50 - 2013-02-11 16:44:07 UTC
Orbital Dyke wrote:
Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up



The Forums are not the game.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2013-02-11 16:48:15 UTC
i have personally reported offensive names and seen them changed within a week (it is a bad idea to mouth off on the forums with a racist name)

many goons have had their names forcibly changed as well

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#52 - 2013-02-11 16:48:52 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Orbital Dyke wrote:
Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up



The Forums are not the game.

you just say that because you can't play it

the forums are part of the game and one of the ways power is exercised

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#53 - 2013-02-11 16:54:31 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Orbital Dyke wrote:
Here to remind everyone this is a game so enjoy it and lighten up



The Forums are not the game.

you just say that because you can't play it

the forums are part of the game and one of the ways power is exercised



Alrighty, Sir, I'm just gonna block you finally. Don't bother with your crap in the future as I will absolutely not see it.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#54 - 2013-02-11 16:59:53 UTC
i assume you're as good at blocking posts as you are at quitting eve

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Lipbite
Express Hauler
#55 - 2013-02-11 17:54:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
After many years in the Internet I cannot be offended by pixels.
Sol Weinstein
Lunatic Warfare Federation
#56 - 2013-02-11 18:00:42 UTC
I think typing out "EvE" is offensive, but it isn't going to change anything.

"Offensive" is an arbitrary term. Please stop pushing your beliefs onto other people. We already have two perfectly good words that start with "N" that we cannot use due to peoples' over-sensitivity. No thanks for including more to the list that takes away freedom of speech.

Thank you.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#57 - 2013-02-11 18:06:14 UTC
Sol Weinstein wrote:
I think typing out "EvE" is offensive, but it isn't going to change anything.

"Offensive" is an arbitrary term. Please stop pushing your beliefs onto other people. We already have two perfectly good words that start with "N" that we cannot use due to peoples' over-sensitivity. No thanks for including more to the list that takes away freedom of speech.

Thank you.

freedom of speech is protection against the government

people and corporations cutting ties with you and shunning you is exactly how it's supposed to work

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Sol Weinstein
Lunatic Warfare Federation
#58 - 2013-02-11 18:07:55 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Sol Weinstein wrote:
I think typing out "EvE" is offensive, but it isn't going to change anything.

"Offensive" is an arbitrary term. Please stop pushing your beliefs onto other people. We already have two perfectly good words that start with "N" that we cannot use due to peoples' over-sensitivity. No thanks for including more to the list that takes away freedom of speech.

Thank you.

freedom of speech is protection against the government

people and corporations cutting ties with you and shunning you is exactly how it's supposed to work


What?
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2013-02-11 18:10:33 UTC
Turelus wrote:
It's something most people in EVE see every day, joke character and corps names which really are offensive and shouldn't be there. While I'm the kind of person who doesn't get offended by these names I'm always sure there are those that do, CCP say they don't want them and have the tools for reporting them but I have to ask the player base as a whole... does anyone bother?

I mean all I can imagine is that if I actually file petitions for all the names I saw which shouldn't be there CCP would soon have hundreds of petitions from me.

I bring this up after seeing a corporation being advertised named "Window Lickers. [DWNZ]" and all I can think is yeah... that's pretty close to the line if not already over it in my mind. Does that even count on CCP's level of offensive/rude though?


poop and stuff

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#60 - 2013-02-11 18:11:23 UTC
Sol Weinstein wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Sol Weinstein wrote:
I think typing out "EvE" is offensive, but it isn't going to change anything.

"Offensive" is an arbitrary term. Please stop pushing your beliefs onto other people. We already have two perfectly good words that start with "N" that we cannot use due to peoples' over-sensitivity. No thanks for including more to the list that takes away freedom of speech.

Thank you.

freedom of speech is protection against the government

people and corporations cutting ties with you and shunning you is exactly how it's supposed to work


What?

dumbass whining about freedom of speech when people and corporations are shunning you is nonsense

freedom of speech means you don't get thrown in jail not you don't get shunned and despised

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.