EVE General Discussion

TL;DR: Just post your brief opinion on what game mechanics make hisec so bad. Thanks.

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First of all, my position, as in exactly every other post I have ever made, is that I don't actually care either way on most topics, I'm simply trying to understand how EvE works, and pointing out how it looks to me, which may or may not be correct, but rather then explanations, people just say "go play WoW" or similar, which does not help me any.

* If the point is to make people move away from Concord in order to be able to shoot them, I can't see that working. If someone has decided to leave a toon in HS, they have obviously thought it through and it's a game play decision. I have an ALT that just makes all my ammo, converts/sells loot, etc, in order to minimize the percentage losses from low SP skills; it has to stay parked somewhere in hisec.

* If the point is to populate low/null more, people have to join Corps, so again, that would be a game play decision, and they would have done it anyway. I now have a combat toon that can run L4 missions and plexes etc, in any space for basic income, but it's a couple of months away from fully fitting a couple of assault frigs and cruisers I want to fly in for PvP, mostly because of weapons skills, and hull reqs, and based on what I have read about the summer changes, I'm going to wait now, as I already have done the Battlecruiser V / Destroyer V / Racial Cruisers 3 trainings as I was told to.

I can fully understand the idea of EvE being PvP centric, and a lot of recent changes swaying away from that, but don't large Alliances already turn large areas of null into ultra-safe zones for their members? Pretty sure the Goons can react a lot harsher then any Concord response, if say, someone decides to go harass it's miners or mission runners. I was under the impression that heavily patrolled Null is way safer to work in that any place in Hisec.

If you want to cause more diversity, wouldn't it be easier to only have certain things available to players only when in Corps? For example, as Alliances have to pay Corcord for tons of stuff, why not give them better insurance payouts on ships, or discounts from LP stores or similar things. I imagine every person and their dog would be getting their calculators out to find loopholes, but I'd rather see changes that favor people moved to large corps, rather then just making Hisec crappier.

Am I missing something here?

The highseccers...

dont think the null low sec people hate high sec...just the mining and the mission runners that never do anything but that...this is an alt but my main is a pvp player...currently im broke so im running missions and mining etc..but once i hit a bil or so im gonna join some pvp encounter rather is null, low , fw, etc.

there has to be a balance of pvp losses and indiviual or corp isk earn rate.

thats why prices of ships and plexes are going up..more isk is being made by players but less ships are being blown up...meaning money loses some value.

Ya know, I've been playing for three years.

I've kept count and this is the 1,132nd time someone has OP'd this topic.

Also - "First of all, my position, as in exactly every other post I have ever made, is that I don't actually care either way on most topics" -- is ironic considering you typed a WALL about this one thing.

Stop that. Do you know how much beer it takes to unsee such things?

I don't care either way, I'm trying to understand what causes the issue people have other then a personal aegnda and not actually making the game better.

I have yet to see a logical argument that explains why changes to ANY sec space actually improves the game universe. If you have seen on, feel free to link it.

If you would read through your own thread the answer is in my post at #11 ^ ^

It's not even really worth thinking about, TBH.

I think Hisec is way too safe, or at least too safe for the EvE lore.

When I heard of EvE, I thought Hisec was either a very small section of space, or "pocket islands" of space. I also thought sec status was a fluctuating things, not hardwired, so I found it weird when I looked around.

It should be easier for fights to start in Hisec, but it should also be easier for players to actually work at making that space safer, rather then simply have the hand of God that is Concord, as that mechanic really irks me.

The problem I find again and again is that EvE has so many mechanics tied in knots over many other games, that even simple changes cause massive uproar. Look at the recent removal of the passive bonus from turned off hardeners. CCP didnt even think it was worth a mention, and yet lots of people had the skills on 4-5 specifically as a tactic and are very annoyed.