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Itty V - From 24d down to 33 min?
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#161 - 2013-02-10 16:45:25 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
itty V in 33 minutes is ridiculous period.


Only in its current form. Industrials have yet to be teircided.
Kate stark
#162 - 2013-02-10 16:48:58 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
As for your concern about the Itty V


i'm not concerned, i have all racial industrials at I or greater, i also have the ability to fly a freighter and an orca, on multiple accounts...

honestly, i have more concern for the basic human rights of billionaires than i do for this change.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#163 - 2013-02-10 16:52:26 UTC
seriously saying people who complain about eve should quit has probably been used like a billion times and is a superficial scapegoat argument with no input what soever... u cant get any lamer than tell people to quit eve.

Legba
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#164 - 2013-02-10 17:01:58 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again.

You really should just quit EVE.

If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence.

So you're not going to stop buying a product from a company you're not satisfied with? Who's the sucker now?

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#165 - 2013-02-10 17:07:56 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again.

You really should just quit EVE.

If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence.

So you're not going to stop buying a product from a company you're not satisfied with? Who's the sucker now?


eve isnt just some product dude it carrys a lot of time invested and is one of the only sincere mmos out there with a mature theme.

he probably really likes eve and would rather support it to become the best it can be without just turning his back on it.

Legba
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#166 - 2013-02-10 17:11:17 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again.

You really should just quit EVE.

If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence.

So you're not going to stop buying a product from a company you're not satisfied with? Who's the sucker now?


Hahah. Why would I stop playing eve due to a minor issue such as this? If that is your only solution then I expect your the type who doesn't achieve much with your life.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#167 - 2013-02-10 17:13:19 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again.

You really should just quit EVE.

If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence.

So you're not going to stop buying a product from a company you're not satisfied with? Who's the sucker now?


eve isnt just some product dude it carrys a lot of time invested and is one of the only sincere mmos out there with a mature theme.

he probably really likes eve and would rather support it to become the best it can be without just turning his back on it.


Yes exactly. Just because of this issue it doesn't mean I don't like eve and would turn my back on it. I would just be happy if CCP refunded the mining barge skill and my opinion of them would be even higher than it is now, but it wouldn't effect all the other good things about this game if they decided not to.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#168 - 2013-02-10 17:13:41 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
he probably really likes eve and would rather support it to become the best it can be without just turning his back on it.

But apparently the fact that they're not going to reimburse a skill that is still useful is terrible customer service, and that is a cited reason to not continue buying a product.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#169 - 2013-02-10 17:20:25 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
he probably really likes eve and would rather support it to become the best it can be without just turning his back on it.

But apparently the fact that they're not going to reimburse a skill that is still useful is terrible customer service, and that is a cited reason to not continue buying a product.


That is the whole point. Mining barge skill is not useful and never will be useful. I don't have any of the other related mining skills trained up and would never want to as I simply wanted to use the orca. At least with capital pilots they can jump into BS's, and HAC pilots can jump into assault frigates, and that is the difference that most people on this thread seem to not understand as the excuse that it is still a useful skill is being stated when in fact mining barge V is not useful at all in the slightest.

Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#170 - 2013-02-10 17:26:05 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
That is the whole point. Mining barge skill is not useful and never will be useful. I don't have any of the other related mining skills trained up and would never want to as I simply wanted to use the orca. At least with capital pilots they can jump into BS's, and HAC pilots can jump into assault frigates, and that is the difference that most people on this thread seem to not understand as the excuse that it is still a useful skill is being stated when in fact mining barge V is not useful at all in the slightest.

But it is useful, you can fly mining barges at the highest level if you want to.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#171 - 2013-02-10 17:28:46 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:


Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?


i think hes using the situation to display to himself that people( producers) need people like him, its probably something that makes him feel better about himself.

Legba
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#172 - 2013-02-10 17:29:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Rebecha Pucontis
Karl Hobb wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
That is the whole point. Mining barge skill is not useful and never will be useful. I don't have any of the other related mining skills trained up and would never want to as I simply wanted to use the orca. At least with capital pilots they can jump into BS's, and HAC pilots can jump into assault frigates, and that is the difference that most people on this thread seem to not understand as the excuse that it is still a useful skill is being stated when in fact mining barge V is not useful at all in the slightest.

But it is useful, you can fly mining barges at the highest level if you want to.



Hehehe. Yeh thats what I always wanted to do. Why didn't I think of that before. hehe
Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#173 - 2013-02-10 17:31:26 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:


Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?


i think hes using the situation to display to himself that people( producers) need people like him, its probably something that makes him feel better about himself.


Hehe. Yes, sucking up to CCP. It seems a lot on these forums will defend CCP tooth and nail and tell anyone who makes even a minor complaint to quit.
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#174 - 2013-02-10 18:05:44 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:


Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?


i think hes using the situation to display to himself that people( producers) need people like him, its probably something that makes him feel better about himself.


Hehe. Yes, sucking up to CCP. It seems a lot on these forums will defend CCP tooth and nail and tell anyone who makes even a minor complaint to quit.


its bullying... the arguments are very biased and often dont even considere the original text... tl;dr <<< bs

Legba
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#175 - 2013-02-10 19:27:49 UTC
I'd like to see that noob try to move that 29k m3 of _______ in that Itty5 that he has skiled to 1. Roll

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Kate stark
#176 - 2013-02-10 19:40:06 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
I'd like to see that noob try to move that 29k m3 of _______ in that Itty5 that he has skiled to 1. Roll


easily.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#177 - 2013-02-10 19:48:42 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:
Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back?


And what can he do with that Orca?

Can't boost. Can't mine. Can haul, but not that well.



Role Bonus:
250% bonus to tractor beam range
100% bonus to tractor beam velocity
500% bonus to survey scanner range
99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules
Can use 3 warfare link modules simultaneously.

Industrial Command Ship Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to cargo capacity per level
3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman links per level


bolded the important parts for you.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#178 - 2013-02-10 19:48:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Mortimer Civeri
Kate stark wrote:
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
I'd like to see that noob try to move that 29k m3 of _______ in that Itty5 that he has skiled to 1. Roll


easily.

Show your math, to say that. Twisted

EDIT: no rigs and only T1 expanders, also show speed and align time

EDIT2: and show with T1 rigs skilled to 1, and T1 expanders, also with speed and align time.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#179 - 2013-02-10 20:12:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:


Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?


i think hes using the situation to display to himself that people( producers) need people like him, its probably something that makes him feel better about himself.


Hehe. Yes, sucking up to CCP. It seems a lot on these forums will defend CCP tooth and nail and tell anyone who makes even a minor complaint to quit.


We're not defending CCP because we're groupies, we're just tearing apart your ridiculous argument because it's crap and I can't stand to let people who are logic challenged run riot on the forum saying whatever they like.

If you get some kind of reimbursement for your Mining Barge skill then everyone will want reimbursements for the hundreds of skills people will no longer need to fly various different ships, and CCP don't have the time or resources to do that. And frankly, if they did, I would be pissed at them for not spending the money on developers to make eve better, rather than spending it on GMs who will have **** all to do after the event.

Seriously, grow some brain cells and stop thinking the world revolves around you, because it doesn't. And I don't want to hear more of this "the customers always right crap" from you, because you are a minority and most people just don't care.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#180 - 2013-02-10 20:23:07 UTC
Varesk wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:
Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back?


And what can he do with that Orca?

Can't boost. Can't mine. Can haul, but not that well.



Role Bonus:
250% bonus to tractor beam range
100% bonus to tractor beam velocity
500% bonus to survey scanner range
99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules
Can use 3 warfare link modules simultaneously.

Industrial Command Ship Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to cargo capacity per level
3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman links per level


bolded the important parts for you.

I look forward to using an orca for my leet pvp on the Jita undock.