Skill Discussions

If you were happy to get the car at 10k and you can't return it for 10k, then the fact that the price has later dropped is irrelevant.

If you cannot get it back, it is sunk, and you will only succeed in causing yourself grief by pretending otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs
It's not an argument, and ignoring it is generally referred to as the "Sunk Cost Fallacy."

Sure. That's why CCP refunded Drone skills to Supercap pilots, Cruise Missile skills to Stealth bomber pilots, and so on. Oh, wait...

You can still Fly mining Barges, so the Mining barge skill still provides its benefit.

Go ahead. Next time you buy something that goes on sale later, try to get them to refund the difference. They'll laugh you out of the store unless they have one of those future price guarantee things (which are always advertised in advance).

Especially months or years later.

Plenty of places will offer you some reimbursement if the price suddenly changes recently after you've bought it. You must be buying from some crappy shops. Ive even had Amazon refund me the difference before when they dropped the price on a pre order I made. They didn't make any fuss or some give me BS which is why it is the largest online retailer.

So Amazon, in accordance with a policy that they advertise when you sign a pre-order, dropped the price of something that you pre-ordered before you received the item.
Thus, you argue, CCP, in direct contradiction to their stated and previously executed policy, should return SP that you spent and have received the benefit for months or years after you spent the SP and recieved the benefit.

Is that about the size of it?

Again, show me a car dealer that will give me 5 grand because my car is is on sale 6 months after I bought it. Hell, show me a car dealer that will give me the difference between my purchase price and their Christmas sale price if I buy the car the day before the Christmas sale starts.

Your flogging a dead horse with your "CCP should refund me" stuff. They haven't done it in the past, and rightfully so. You can't compare a games company to Amazon because all games companies work in this way. Nothing in the game physically belongs to you, the only thing you pay for when you pay your sub is the right to continue playing. The virtual goods inside of the game are the property of CCP which ever way you look at it.

Also, your car dealer example was pretty laughable. Sorry to say it that bluntly, but it's true. I also live in the UK, but the people who will refund you the difference on your products following a drop in price are in the minority. Not that the shop metaphor is even vaguely linked to the virtual objects in an MMO.

You are what people call a "First World Problems Person". You shouldn't even care, because it literally doesn't effect you personally in any way shape or form.

The fact that you have a thread full of people telling you these things should be hint enough that no one really cares about this stuff. Many of the people commenting in here will be affected by these changes in exactly the same way as you are going to be. You are only a 2012 toon, so I can understand how you may feel a little frustrated, but there are going to be many many examples of similar things happening to you whilst you play Eve. That is of course if you don't leave because you feel like your somehow entitled to "better customer service".

And those are all policies that they advertise, correct?

Name for me a Car Dealer, which I can call up, and ask if they will give me 5 grand because a Car I bought dropped in price by 5 grand after I bought it.

Name for me a company which will refund the difference in prices months or years after I bought something?

The Orca has been around since November 2008. You are asking for a refund on a 4 year old product while it is still in working order and you can still use it simply because it got cheaper.

To be fair, they're also not asking to actually receive anything when they get the things they don't own refunded.

Its pretty simple. People paid CCP for game time and trained up a skill which is no longer required due to CCP making fundamental changes, and in the case of mining barges was never required by many and never will be required in the future. The issue is really that simple.

Im surprised by the amount of intellectual psuedo BS posted attacking something which should be in the majority of the player bases interest. Im sure if you asked people who actually play the game and don't come on the forums then they would welcome a mining barge SP refund.

itty V in 33 minutes is ridiculous period.

If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence.