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Best ship for corp killing?

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Clara Tsukaya
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-02-08 07:58:07 UTC
Now I know you can corp kill people with any decent PvP ship..

But is there one that does the job the best for some reason? (No T3 cruisers)


What characteristics do you want in such a ship? Neuts, web?, extreme dps?

I'm guessing you'd want a strong brawler, what are other things you'd want aswell :)
Thanks.
ChaseX
The Executives
#2 - 2013-02-08 09:22:30 UTC
Clara Tsukaya wrote:
Now I know you can corp kill people with any decent PvP ship..

But is there one that does the job the best for some reason? (No T3 cruisers)


What characteristics do you want in such a ship? Neuts, web?, extreme dps?

I'm guessing you'd want a strong brawler, what are other things you'd want aswell :)
Thanks.


Anshar
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-02-08 09:31:26 UTC
Clara Tsukaya wrote:
Now I know you can corp kill people with any decent PvP ship..

But is there one that does the job the best for some reason? (No T3 cruisers)


What characteristics do you want in such a ship? Neuts, web?, extreme dps?

I'm guessing you'd want a strong brawler, what are other things you'd want aswell :)
Thanks.


Exactly what are you trying to do? kill own corp mates, or other people? What are they flying? Your best bet is a ship that can do the most damage towards that specific hull.
Which race do you fly?

with the upcoming buff of the Harbinger and Brutix you might wanna take a look at them.

Quote:

[Harbinger, Pvp Buffer]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Internal Force Field Array I
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Medium 'Gattotte' Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Faint Warp Disruptor I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5

Stats: 674 DPS, 74k EHP (100k+ with slaves)


Quote:

[Brutix, Pvp Buffer]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x5


Stats: 731 DPS, 65k EHP (about 90k with slaves)

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 

Clara Tsukaya
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-02-08 09:44:46 UTC
I'll be fighting the typical stuff.

Big mining ops and pimped out mission boats. And after that... PvP squads sent to kill me.


I can fly anything that isn't amarr.


I remember in "my loot your tears" the pilots always used neuts to help break the tank of the faction fit faction battleships that their prey flew... Is that nessesary? Will plain DPS work out.. Or are neuts needed?

Thanks :)
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#5 - 2013-02-08 09:51:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Merin Ryskin
1) Low skill requirements so your griefer alt doesn't need to to waste time training before you can start ganking your former friends. Forget about T2 guns and all that nonsense, every day spent training skills is a day spent not ganking people. So aim for a ship that can be effective with T1 basic stuff.

2) Maximum point-blank dps. You're going to be engaging unsuspecting targets, preferably with NPCs helping you, and they're probably going to be carebear fit with long-range weapons. So warp in right next to them and tear them apart inside their effective range.

3) Full tackle. Imagine how embarrassing it would be if your target is able to burn out of scram range and warp out. Don't let this happen to you, make sure they aren't going anywhere. If you're going to crash a mining party it's even better if you can bring multiple points to make sure nobody tries to leave early.

4) Ability to stay in space for long periods of time. Unless you can find some gullible morons to give you roles you only have until you dock to kill things, and you don't want to stop killing things. So if you're armor tanking, bring an armor rep. Don't count on cap boosters. Etc. If you're flying expendable ships you'll need an alt to hand you new ships/cap charges/etc.

In short: get a blaster ship. A Brutix is always a good option, or you might consider a neut Dominix if your targets fly active tanked mission ships. Or, if you're using your main you might want to consider a Phobos in case they try to fit stabs after you get your first kill.
Clara Tsukaya
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-02-08 10:25:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Clara Tsukaya
Merin Ryskin wrote:
1) Low skill requirements so your griefer alt doesn't need to to waste time training before you can start ganking your former friends. Forget about T2 guns and all that nonsense, every day spent training skills is a day spent not ganking people. So aim for a ship that can be effective with T1 basic stuff.

2) Maximum point-blank dps. You're going to be engaging unsuspecting targets, preferably with NPCs helping you, and they're probably going to be carebear fit with long-range weapons. So warp in right next to them and tear them apart inside their effective range.

3) Full tackle. Imagine how embarrassing it would be if your target is able to burn out of scram range and warp out. Don't let this happen to you, make sure they aren't going anywhere. If you're going to crash a mining party it's even better if you can bring multiple points to make sure nobody tries to leave early.

4) Ability to stay in space for long periods of time. Unless you can find some gullible morons to give you roles you only have until you dock to kill things, and you don't want to stop killing things. So if you're armor tanking, bring an armor rep. Don't count on cap boosters. Etc. If you're flying expendable ships you'll need an alt to hand you new ships/cap charges/etc.

In short: get a blaster ship. A Brutix is always a good option, or you might consider a neut Dominix if your targets fly active tanked mission ships. Or, if you're using your main you might want to consider a Phobos in case they try to fit stabs after you get your first kill.


I will be using a well-skilled toon.

Phobos sounds interesting. Didn't even consider it .. thanks.

I think I want to go with being able to survive in space for a long time, high DPS, and maybe atleast one medium neut for the mission boats that use CAP for tanking.


What do you think about the t2 rupture? edit: nvm it sucks.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#7 - 2013-02-08 11:17:06 UTC
Neut Domi with a ship scanner.

Tempest with 4/4 guns and neuts.

lots of neuts, lots of plates.
Aria Ta'Rohk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-02-08 14:29:54 UTC
Something with lots of mids for points. Lots and lots of points. Perhaps a battle skiff? A Phobos would work quite well though.

I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears

Cal Stantson
17eme Chasseurs a Cheval
#9 - 2013-02-08 14:44:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Cal Stantson
Thinking about it, you're going to want the following:

-Enough Raw EHP*DPS to actually win most fights.
-High DPS (The quicker you kill them, the less risk there is of other corpies coming in and stopping you.)
-Neuts to shut down active tanks.
-If you're going after mission runners, you'll want to be able to pick damage types, since you should be able to figure out their resist holes.

I'd say go minmatar. Armor Cane with a couple of gyrostabs and neuts, or an armor Tempest with neuts. HAM Drake could also work because of the switchable damage types and relatively high DPS.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-02-08 17:07:59 UTC
Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#11 - 2013-02-08 18:09:20 UTC
For a mission runner kill, I'd go safe and bring a high dps blaster / ogre dominix. Looks like a PVE boat as long as you keep sentries out, you can play around and let them bring the shiny. 2K dps brings the shiny down before his friends swarm in. I'd look into a warp stab as well, so you can warp off with the loot even if they manage to bring in an emergency interceptor. After all, you get to dictate when to engage so scanres and targeting range are negligible.

When you warp in station with the loots, use the regular station games stuff for the ensuing grind with off grid boosts: dual XL asb cyclone, active tank hyperion etc. A neutral ECM boat or RR can help, too - the new logistics t1 cruisers are pretty good for de-agress and dock purposes.
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#12 - 2013-02-08 18:23:04 UTC
Hurricane used to be really good at this cause you got good DPS and 2 medium neuts

I think a neut Domi would work well for this too
Clara Tsukaya
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-02-08 21:24:04 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Well,do fraps it if you can.


I will, I'm just trying to find an un-used ship that will do the job. Keep an eye on the "My Eve" forum section for lolz in the coming weeks.

I could just use a domi... but I'd rather do it with a ship nobody uses.
Dibblerette
Solitude-Industries
#14 - 2013-02-09 22:41:48 UTC
Clara Tsukaya wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Well,do fraps it if you can.


I will, I'm just trying to find an un-used ship that will do the job. Keep an eye on the "My Eve" forum section for lolz in the coming weeks.

I could just use a domi... but I'd rather do it with a ship nobody uses.

There's usually a reason people avoid a certain ship.

That said, might be worth looking at the Scorpion. Torps and heavy neuts, heavy shield tank in the mids and be sure to bring an ECM burst so you can leave.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#15 - 2013-02-09 22:52:03 UTC
If you want to crash a mining op, depending on the size of it, you probably want a lot of points. Since in this special case you won't have to expect heavy dps incoming, you could probably take a usually shield tanked ship with a good rack of medslots and armor-tank it so you can point 4-5 people at the same time. After the initial blow, you will, as you mentioned, have to stay in space for long time and be able to take on several people at once, maybe heavily active tanked ships.

So you're looking at a good brawling ship that can take quite a beating, deliver neuts, and still have decent dps. Since you don't want to go T3, i'd suggest an Ishtar. Choosable damagetypes, good active tanking potential, 5 midslots, utilitty highs.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#16 - 2013-02-09 22:56:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Syrias Bizniz
Or, as you also mentioned you want to use a ship nobody utilizes for pvp, maybe use a ... battleskiff?

[Skiff, BattleSkiff]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Warp Disruptor II
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Disruptor II
10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hammerhead II x5



Would be fun for inital blow. 195 dps.


€dit: Needs powergrid imp.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2013-02-09 23:44:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Garviel Tarrant
Get to tag along on a mission

Get a brick maller with lotsaneuts

lol

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

To mare
Advanced Technology
#18 - 2013-02-10 01:36:14 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Get to tag along on a mission

Get a brick maller with lotsaneuts

lol

than wait for the npc to switch to you and either warp out or die
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-02-10 04:29:14 UTC
To mare wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Get to tag along on a mission

Get a brick maller with lotsaneuts

lol

than wait for the npc to switch to you and either warp out or die


Shush! Don't tell him that.Lol
Fireflyb1
Walden 2.0
#20 - 2013-02-10 06:34:15 UTC
Clara Tsukaya wrote:
Now I know you can corp kill people with any decent PvP ship..

But is there one that does the job the best for some reason? (No T3 cruisers)


What characteristics do you want in such a ship? Neuts, web?, extreme dps?

I'm guessing you'd want a strong brawler, what are other things you'd want aswell :)
Thanks.


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