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CCP wants MORE -10 suicide alts! Evidence? Crimewatch.
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#61 - 2013-02-09 20:21:38 UTC  |  Edited by: sYnc Vir
Herr Wilkus wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:

Piracy is about roaming dangerous yet rewarding space with bad intentions. Nothing about warping in on a cloaky salvager and killing the easier pray is that. Any real pirate would be truly embrassed to have a KB full of such targets.

I think in my entire eve life, I've maybe 1 or two highsec miner kills. Thank god for that, I never needed to reduce myself to the level of a baby seal killing idiot to become -10. Sure I've camped station, gates, and even smartbombed FW missioners, but it was all done in losec were, and often the people I killed could and did do something about it.

Going after rock sucking ships is truly the lowest form of pvp. I neither respect it, or the people that do it. Had I remained one of my corps recruiters anyone with a KB full of miner kills would have been rejected based purely on there lack of skill at getting actually kills.

I would say the only real thing killing miners does is make ships more expensive, however any single medium sized market trader can do that far more effectively with 5 minutes of market trading.

Too many people in this game, just lack imagination.

Log in, kill easiest thing in eve, smack about tears, high five other idiot, forum post log off.

How truly sad that sounds. Thank god for losec.


Is this some strange definition of 'pirate' you have invented that I don't understand? You low-sec conceit makes me laugh.
You seem to prefer targets that shoot back, which is fine, but I suggest you cease using the term 'pirate' to describe yourself.

Highsec ganking activity far more closely resembles piracy than anything you seem to be doing. Perhaps you simply have a pirate fetish? A pirate wannabe, perhaps?

Traditionally, pirates attack targets that were A) profitable and B) weak/unarmed.
Why? Because the motivation was economic, and getting killed fighting tends to make it hard to realize a profit.
Ask any Somalian. Attack a fat, juicy freighter or a warship? If you seriously expect him to tangle with the US Navy, 'because they shoot back' and he'll simply call YOU the idiot.

Now, I'm not saying that I consider myself a pirate, either, because I'm not especially interested in deriving income from my ganking. I just want my victims to quit EVE. So I work to maximize carebear suffering at a minimum cost. Repeatedly killing/podding miners every 15 minutes is a good way to accomplish this. It maximizes their sense of hopelessness, saps their will to log in - only to get popped again. Eventually they just stop paying subscriptions and get on with their life.

You might find roaming lowsec and popping frigates entertaining, but I consider it to be pointless sparring. The ISK destroyed per hour is pathetic. The tears are non-existent because you aren't really 'victimizing' anybody at all - because most people in lowsec are there looking for fights. Providing 'good fights' in lowsec will, simply put, not cause the victim to suffer.

**(Granted, Freight Club does some pretty impressive work on Jump Freighters - but I consider that the exception, not the rule.)


Actually, people who attack those that are defenseless in is the safest of space, would be terrorist. Pirates were call pirates because they roamed a fixed place, which was considered pirate land. If we're going for real world tagging. Pirates also wouldn't just attack the weakest, they would attack any and all that entire their waters. As most real world pirates were ocean bound.

And I do consider myself a pirate, because I have my home in lawless space, and happily go out and attack anyone I can find when I choose too. I don't have massive CTA's in eve, I don't often have fixed fleets. We are mostly reactive in our fleets, and form when he scout a target. We're free to do so.

And not to be rude, but anyone who plays a game with the mandate of getting others to quit is ret4rded. As should you succeed you would kill your own game. A little forward thinking, unless of course you are of a mindset that truly hates everyone and only find happiness in the misery of others. If so, I withdraw my "not to be rude" and leave you to what I assume is your only fulfillment in life. At lease of the sake of others, i hope so.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#62 - 2013-02-09 20:31:15 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:


Actually, people who attack those that are defenseless in is the safest of space, would be terrorist. Pirates were call pirates because they roamed a fixed place, which was considered pirate land. If we're going for real world tagging. Pirates also wouldn't just attack the weakest, they would attack any and all that entire their waters. As most real world pirates were ocean bound.




Pi·rat·ed, pi·rat·ing, pi·rates
v.tr.
1. To attack and rob (a ship).
2. To take (something) by piracy.


A weak target with booty is still a target for piracy.
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2013-02-09 20:40:34 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:


Actually, people who attack those that are defenseless in is the safest of space, would be terrorist. Pirates were call pirates because they roamed a fixed place, which was considered pirate land. If we're going for real world tagging. Pirates also wouldn't just attack the weakest, they would attack any and all that entire their waters. As most real world pirates were ocean bound.




Pi·rat·ed, pi·rat·ing, pi·rates
v.tr.
1. To attack and rob (a ship).
2. To take (something) by piracy.


A weak target with booty is still a target for piracy.

ter·ror·ism
/ˈterəˌrizəm/
Noun
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political or idealogical aims.
Synonyms
terror

So yeah unless there really is a religion of good fights and all
Well that or going against the hiseccers
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#64 - 2013-02-09 20:45:21 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
Pirates were call pirates because they roamed a fixed place, which was considered pirate land.

wat

I want the brain cells you killed back.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#65 - 2013-02-09 20:58:15 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:


And not to be rude, but anyone who plays a game with the mandate of getting others to quit is ret4rded. As should you succeed you would kill your own game. A little forward thinking, unless of course you are of a mindset that truly hates everyone and only find happiness in the misery of others. If so, I withdraw my "not to be rude" and leave you to what I assume is your only fulfillment in life. At lease of the sake of others, i hope so. [/i]



Not all other players. Just the undesirable players. Carebears. I think EVE can do with less of them.

And yes, the fact that I use internet space pixels to blow up other people's internet space pixels is evidence that I get no fullfillment in other areas of life. Because without ganking in EVE I have nothing. During the lengthy periods that I don't play EVE, also known as 'the construction season' - I literally just sit and stare at the floor and drool, instead of dealing with cranky old superintendents.

Your caricature of a post is laughable, especially coming from someone who calls himself a pirate, yet hasn't demonstrated he even understands what a pirate is....Roll
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#66 - 2013-02-09 21:14:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Corey Fumimasa
sYnc Vir wrote:

And not to be rude, but anyone who plays a game with the mandate of getting others to quit is ret4rded. As should you succeed you would kill your own game. A little forward thinking, unless of course you are of a mindset that truly hates everyone and only find happiness in the misery of others. If so, I withdraw my "not to be rude" and leave you to what I assume is your only fulfillment in life. At lease of the sake of others, i hope so. [/i]

So you are a polite, leet speaking pirate with a strong code of ethics...bwahahahahbahahababahaba....bahahbahabhabahbaha, yeah, only in Eve. God bless you leet pirate.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#67 - 2013-02-09 21:18:00 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
And not to be rude, but anyone who plays a game with the mandate of getting others to quit is ret4rded. As should you succeed you would kill your own game. A little forward thinking, unless of course you are of a mindset that truly hates everyone and only find happiness in the misery of others. If so, I withdraw my "not to be rude" and leave you to what I assume is your only fulfillment in life. At lease of the sake of others, i hope so. [/i]

Not all other players. Just the undesirable players. Carebears. I think EVE can do with less of them.

And yes, the fact that I use internet space pixels to blow up other people's internet space pixels is evidence that I get no fullfillment in other areas of life. Because without ganking in EVE I have nothing. During the lengthy periods that I don't play EVE, also known as 'the construction season' - I literally just sit and stare at the floor and drool, instead of dealing with cranky old superintendents.

Your caricature of a post is laughable, especially coming from someone who calls himself a pirate, yet hasn't demonstrated he even understands what a pirate is....Roll

This is a pretty good post.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#68 - 2013-02-09 21:18:36 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:

And not to be rude, but anyone who plays a game with the mandate of getting others to quit is ret4rded. As should you succeed you would kill your own game. A little forward thinking, unless of course you are of a mindset that truly hates everyone and only find happiness in the misery of others. If so, I withdraw my "not to be rude" and leave you to what I assume is your only fulfillment in life. At lease of the sake of others, i hope so. [/i]

So you are a polite, leet speaking pirate with a strong code of ethics...bwahahahahbahahababahaba....bahahbahabhabahbaha, yeah, only in Eve. God bless you leet pirate.

~elite pvp~ evolved into ~elite pirate~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2013-02-09 21:32:03 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Not all other players. Just the undesirable players. Carebears. I think EVE can do with less of them.

Oh boy. Are carebears touching you in inappropriate places again?

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
Whitehound
#70 - 2013-02-09 22:33:35 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Not all other players. Just the undesirable players. Carebears. I think EVE can do with less of them.

And yes, the fact that I use internet space pixels to blow up other people's internet space pixels is evidence that I get no fullfillment in other areas of life. Because without ganking in EVE I have nothing. During the lengthy periods that I don't play EVE, also known as 'the construction season' - I literally just sit and stare at the floor and drool, instead of dealing with cranky old superintendents.

Your caricature of a post is laughable, especially coming from someone who calls himself a pirate, yet hasn't demonstrated he even understands what a pirate is....Roll

This is a pretty deep post.

Fixed it for you.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#71 - 2013-02-09 23:13:06 UTC
Here's the thing.

These -10 suicide alts you are talking about, are not alts at all. These are people who's game-play style means they have -10 sec status... Because they have this already they have nothing to fear when suicide ganking. And let's face it, it's not like they have any reason to care. The faction police wont catch them when they are flying thrashers, so they just turn up where ever they are needed, suicide gank something, and then return to lowsec and continue to pirate with no change what-so-every. I have been in a lot of corps where people suicide gank, and none of them have ever had "alts" for the purpose of suicide ganking.

Anyway, that's it.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
RichtPaul
Shadow Industries I
#72 - 2013-02-10 00:32:34 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Pirates were call pirates because they roamed a fixed place, which was considered pirate land.

wat

I want the brain cells you killed back.


Circular logic is circular.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#73 - 2013-02-10 01:07:23 UTC
You are in a Retriever mining veldspar. A -10 pirate enters local. Do you:

a) Align to station and get ready to warp out
b) Reship into an interceptor, chase him around and try to point him
c) Laugh as he dies to a gatecamp your friends set up because you know where he's coming from
d) Cry on the forums about ~dishonor~ and ask for a nerf

Is the flashy red tag next to their names not enough warning that they could be bad news? Especially if you're in something squishy? What more can you ask for?