These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Did Tranquility lost 50,000 subscribers since Incarna?

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#21 - 2013-02-09 14:04:46 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Turns out, bear content does not attract as many people as pvp content.


Whats "bear" content?

You'd say "easy" to that. I cannot speak for others. But if EVE goes the down the "easy" or "bear" path, CCP will lose my subscriptions.

Blizzard has lost mine for good because of this.


I don't think "easy" when someone says bear. I think Baltec meant to spell "Beer". Its kind of funny that you interpret his meaning as "easy" regardless of what was written. I guess he doesn't actually need to say anything for everyone to know what he thinks. Thats cool.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2013-02-09 14:06:54 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:

Happens when you put beer in a sodastream.


You put beer in a sodastream?!!?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2013-02-09 14:10:16 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:


Whats "bear" content?


The stuff they were working on before last year. Retribution is what the EVE playerbase wants.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#24 - 2013-02-09 14:17:18 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:

Happens when you put beer in a sodastream.


You put beer in a sodastream?!!?


Yep, when it's flat. P
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#25 - 2013-02-09 14:35:47 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:


Whats "bear" content?


The stuff they were working on before last year. Retribution is what the EVE playerbase wants.

Oh, you meant bear as in care bear! Dur

Re retribution; Looks like cool ships and easy buttons to me. I remain hopeful that people want challenge and new ways to interact. However the response to the IttyV being a noob ship is perhaps telling. The way to close the power creep gap is by buffing the bottom not nerfing the top. All those big ships being usable by noobs will increase the PLEX that they buy...that will lower the Isk price for PLEX.

I hope CCP is keeping records of the why and how of these choices they make, man I would love to be a fly on the wall of the CCP conference room sometimes.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#26 - 2013-02-09 14:42:39 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
And next we'll see a thread about how EVE is dying. Oh wait. There's already been a few. Must be time for the one where WiS and dress up dollies will save EVE because so many Turkish men will suddenly flock to the game?


EVE is not dieing, it just lost 50,000 subscribers between March 2012 and December 2012. Bear

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#27 - 2013-02-09 14:44:20 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
However the response to the IttyV being a noob ship is perhaps telling.

Haulers are going to be rebalanced too. There probably is not going to be a top and bottom anymore. Just ships being good at doing something.

Remove standings and insurance.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#28 - 2013-02-09 14:45:27 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Turns out, bear content does not attract as many people as pvp content.


Turns out, PvP content was a reason to subscribe only to 21% of all new players in 2011.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
RAP ACTION HERO
#29 - 2013-02-09 14:48:11 UTC
tell me about your fascinating findings about the NPE, that people don't like the skills systems, so lets get rid of that.

vitoc erryday
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#30 - 2013-02-09 15:02:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:
tell me about your fascinating findings about the NPE, that people don't like the skills systems, so lets get rid of that.


Just want to state that this little research was started after reading an article at The Mittani.com. It was them who pointed me in the direction of how the number of 450k subcriptions actually included Serenity.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2013-02-09 16:01:06 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Turns out, bear content does not attract as many people as pvp content.


Turns out, PvP content was a reason to subscribe only to 21% of all new players in 2011.


Yet retribution which mainly deals with pvp is the best expansion for years after many pve focused expansions failed to deliver.

Ill take more people playing every day over some survay most didnt fill in.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-02-09 16:18:17 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Turns out, bear content does not attract as many people as pvp content.


Turns out, PvP content was a reason to subscribe only to 21% of all new players in 2011.


Yet retribution which mainly deals with pvp is the best expansion for years after many pve focused expansions failed to deliver.

Ill take more people playing every day over some survay most didnt fill in.

There was pvp-content in the 2011 expansions ??
Seriously ?? o_O
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2013-02-09 16:24:57 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:

There was pvp-content in the 2011 expansions ??
Seriously ?? o_O


Retribution came out in 2011??!!?
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2013-02-09 16:31:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:

There was pvp-content in the 2011 expansions ??
Seriously ?? o_O


Retribution came out in 2011??!!?

Behold mine time machine!
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2013-02-09 16:33:49 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:

There was pvp-content in the 2011 expansions ??
Seriously ?? o_O


Retribution came out in 2011??!!?

Dude, which year do we have ??
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#36 - 2013-02-09 16:34:23 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Turns out, bear content does not attract as many people as pvp content.

Hey, I can come up with conclusions from data too!

EvE is not carebear enough to attract the Chinese. But who needs the world's biggest population for sustained growth?

Fact: If the Chinese aren't forcing their prisoners to play your game you really haven't accomplished anything.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-02-09 17:45:35 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Turns out, bear content does not attract as many people as pvp content.

Hey, I can come up with conclusions from data too!

EvE is not carebear enough to attract the Chinese. But who needs the world's biggest population for sustained growth?

Fact: If the Chinese aren't forcing their prisoners to play your game you really haven't accomplished anything.

It's February already ... (referring to your sig)
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#38 - 2013-02-09 17:50:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Turns out, bear content does not attract as many people as pvp content.


Whats "bear" content?


Bears
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFvl7_q51ew


You may also like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMq8XS4LhE

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-02-09 17:51:18 UTC
There was certainly a dip in players after Incarna, mostly due to bittervet rage and the crack down on bots which lead to a decrease in subscriptions.

However it's definitely back up now. I remember during Incarna, you would generally see around 34,000 people online at the height of the day. Now it's around 50,000 to 52,000 so there has been a significant bounce back.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Irya Boone
The Scope
#40 - 2013-02-09 18:23:15 UTC
So eve is re-re-re-re re re re re re re re re re re reeee dying again??What?

A decade of dying ......Shocked damn!!Ugh

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB