Player Features and Ideas Discussion

bumps

I'd like to bump this again, and if CCP Fozzie hasn't seen it yet, he really should.

I wholeheartedly agree, and for many reasons! After all, they already have orbit lines. Now they just need to follow them! Bookmarks made close to a celestial should be bound to that point in relation to that celestial. Also, I'd like to see ships able to orbit celestials. You know, the first time I saw the orbit command, this is what immediately came to mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9wFS45NmsA

Then again, when I mine, I imagine I'm doing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af2-A_PyhhU

And I'm hoping orbital bombardment is something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dULS20a9vrw

I'm in favor of complexity but this is still a stealth cloaking nerf thread. The change to cloaking you ask for is not acceptable; timers cause problems at gate camps and in WH's where they get in the way of normal sensitive use; yes, I am bringing up wormholes.. because any change you make to cloaks will effect wormhole play in a big way.

-1 in general.. but interesting read on some specifics

I like these ideas. I have always wondered why you can't hide behind planets, moons, or even asteroids (for small enough ships) in order to avoid detection. Gathering information is too perfect. Why am I, a low-SP toon, able to distinguish between a Stabber and Vagabond at 14 AU away with one click of a button just as well as a high-SP toon? How can ship sensor distinguish between the tiny energy signature of a frigate at a star over that of the star itself? Warping to the star should serve a purpose, rather than act as a place where people warp to in order to duel. The various regional descriptions should also impact visibility. I liked how on the first few pages someone referenced to the Vatta War series. I LOVED how sensor were depicted there, and would also love it if EVE were the same way.

Looking at the star map, you see bits of RP fluff such as the Cord of the Elements, the Vapor Sea, black holes. Look at the regional description of Scalding Pass! These are all areas that should realistically mask signatures, distort readings, and generally make it harder to detect ships or even pilot.

+1 to this post. Make space space-y.

bump for the bump gods! topics for the topic throne!

A lot of this is fantastic. I wish it did not have the impression of being such a major change to implement.

If they choose to implement this idea, we should expect to wait a good year or year and a half. Theres balancing and lots of other improvements going on at the moment. I expect this to be taken up quite a bit later.

Players currently complain about the lack of ability to carve out a small niche of space to call their own without belonging to a major Alliance or Coalition. The reason this doesn't currently work is because players are too easily tracked down and precisely located. It's simply impossible to exist somewhere and not be found.

~What would be the point of PVP if all people did was hide and NOT be found? I know you say dont bring up W space but thats what it offers, for the most part.

An important bit here: EVE NEEDS "SPACE TERRAIN" ON A SYSTEM AND GALACTIC LEVEL that will allow players to mask and hide their presence.

~No, we dont. Even if it exsisted, there are SOV units, and if you cannot defend them, you lose space. Once more, I refer you to W space.


Further more, EVEN IF all the changes you wanted were taken into effect, imagine the implications of jumping into a system, and being insta-boomed by said larger forces of people. None of these implimented ideas help the smaller gangs. But hey, +20 for 30 onlined hidden not seen nyx's to **** up your chosen roam.


Everything else, however, seems legit. Allow me to clarify.

+1

I've always wanted a better method of information distribution in EVE. At first I thought I wouldn't like where the OP was going, but the ideas are solid, elegant, and set the stage for more complex information warfare and manipulation to build down the road.