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I'm Down
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#1 - 2013-02-09 00:13:25 UTC  |  Edited by: I'm Down
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However, we will not adjust clone level if the refund causes your total skill points to go above your current clone capacity. If you have Destroyer and Battlecruiser 5 trained, you should account for approximately 6.2 additional million skill points, thus we highly suggest you think about upgrading your clone accordingly, especially if you plan on going into hostile or remote space.
Sealing the deal

All of this will happen for the Summer 2013 expansion. That’s a lot to take on, which is why we wanted to give you as much of an advance notice as possible so you can react accordingly. We do hope this will clear any confusion on the matter – all of this is final and should not change at this point.

CCP Fozzie wrote:
I'm Down wrote:
[quote=CCP Fozzie]

You still haven't addressed the problems that the skill changes will make to cloning, clone cost, upgrades and the possible skill losses from players who die after the changes with out dated clones thanks to the potential 6 million addtional skill points.


We have some plans to help mitigate those challenges but nothing quite ready to announce yet.



So basically, 2 months more of ignoring the obvious problem and lying to players only to come back and say, tough luck guys, you're screwed for all the reasons you warned us about b/c we think we know something.

I guess the years of telling players, hey, you can stop training an account at any time and not pay for higher clone cost was a lie. As well as forcing players to always buy a more expensive clone... thus hurting their pocket and risk factors.

Good player relationship bro's.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-02-09 00:15:29 UTC
Oh look, an NCdot guy making absolutely no sense. What a surprise.

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Ginger Barbarella
#3 - 2013-02-09 00:18:02 UTC
I'm Down wrote:
... four minutes of my life lost here...


Wut?!?!?! That doesn't make any sense whatsoever...

Take a step back from the bong, and don't post while stoned.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#4 - 2013-02-09 00:20:02 UTC
I am also of the consensus that this thread makes no sense and OP should feel bad for posting it.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
I'm Down
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#5 - 2013-02-09 00:20:31 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
I'm Down wrote:
... four minutes of my life lost here...


Wut?!?!?! That doesn't make any sense whatsoever...

Take a step back from the bong, and don't post while stoned.



Basically, if you have BC 5 and Destroyer 5 currently trained, You will get a 6.2 million increase in skill points post patch. In other words, major clone cost increases for older players who stopped training, risk of clone skill loss for players who log in after the patch, and several other major consequences.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#6 - 2013-02-09 00:21:29 UTC
You missed the part where CCP also said in the newest thread about 12 hours ago that they weren't happy with the current clone cost system.
Which would suggest they have something in the works for clone costs/upgrades. But haven't finalised it yet.

Which makes the statement that they are looking into it and may have some plans.... true at that point.

Simply seizing the most convinient quote for your QQ and ignoring the rest doesn't make it true.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#7 - 2013-02-09 00:22:38 UTC
It's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Stop QQing

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Wodensun
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-02-09 00:23:39 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
It's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Stop QQing

-Liang



This ^ and not empty quoting.

Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident...
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#9 - 2013-02-09 00:23:49 UTC
They're trying to tell us that it is probably going to be changed for the expansion but they don't explicitly want to say that because it's not completely finished yet.
I'm Down
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#10 - 2013-02-09 00:23:54 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
You missed the part where CCP also said in the newest thread about 12 hours ago that they weren't happy with the current clone cost system.
Which would suggest they have something in the works for clone costs/upgrades. But haven't finalised it yet.

Which makes the statement that they are looking into it and may have some plans.... true at that point.

Simply seizing the most convinient quote for your QQ and ignoring the rest doesn't make it true.


which does 0 to address that with the same patch, nor does it address the major consequences of skill loss that many players face due to the issue being almost completely hidden. It also affect every player that is currently on leave and does not go back to read old blogs before logging in post patch. It also still causes a variety of other issues.
Kate stark
#11 - 2013-02-09 00:23:58 UTC
what doesn't make sense?

you're getting more sp because of the change, they said they have a change coming for clones but they aren't saying what.

what's so confusing?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Arcelian
0nus
#12 - 2013-02-09 00:24:18 UTC
People can and will ***** about everything they possibly can.
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#13 - 2013-02-09 00:25:10 UTC
NC. tears are delicious, mate.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#14 - 2013-02-09 00:26:56 UTC
I'm Down wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
You missed the part where CCP also said in the newest thread about 12 hours ago that they weren't happy with the current clone cost system.
Which would suggest they have something in the works for clone costs/upgrades. But haven't finalised it yet.

Which makes the statement that they are looking into it and may have some plans.... true at that point.

Simply seizing the most convinient quote for your QQ and ignoring the rest doesn't make it true.


which does 0 to address that with the same patch, nor does it address the major consequences of skill loss that many players face due to the issue being almost completely hidden. It also affect every player that is currently on leave and does not go back to read old blogs before logging in post patch. It also still causes a variety of other issues.


Because the contents of the Summer Expansion are 100% finalised & announced at this point and they won't add a single feature not already Dev Blogged between now and June?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2013-02-09 00:27:38 UTC
Ah...it took awhile..i get it now.

OP is in NC. and probably loses clones like most people spend isk. OP is mad because this will kick him/her/it into the next clone bracket, making his/her/its super awesome pvp more expensive, which in turn is causing all the pre-emtive butthurt.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Kate stark
#16 - 2013-02-09 00:29:14 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Ah...it took awhile..i get it now.

OP is in NC. and probably loses clones like most people spend isk. OP is mad because this will kick him/her/it into the next clone bracket, making his/her/its super awesome pvp more expensive, which in turn is causing all the pre-emtive butthurt.


so the tl;dr is that nc. are bad?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#17 - 2013-02-09 00:37:12 UTC
Just be like me and confuse the clone cost for the SP level. 80 million SP, or one bad decision, before I have to worry about a new clone!
Rengerel en Distel
#18 - 2013-02-09 00:47:20 UTC
It's just wrong of them to not give advance notice of the changes so people could prepare. I mean, really, they should think of that guy that quit in 2005 and who is going to come back in 2013 and not know about the changes, and boom, gets podded in an outdated clone. Think of the 2005ers, CCP!

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-02-09 00:47:29 UTC
I'm Down wrote:
[quote] However, we will not adjust clone level if the refund causes your total skill points to go above your current clone capacity. If you have Destroyer and Battlecruiser 5 trained, you should account for approximately 6.2 additional million skill points, thus we highly suggest you think about upgrading your clone accordingly, especially if you plan on going into hostile or remote space.
Sealing the deal

All of this will happen for the Summer 2013 expansion. That’s a lot to take on, which is why we wanted to give you as much of an advance notice as possible so you can react accordingly. We do hope this will clear any confusion on the matter – all of this is final and should not change at this point.

CCP Fozzie wrote:
I'm Down wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:


You still haven't addressed the problems that the skill changes will make to cloning, clone cost, upgrades and the possible skill losses from players who die after the changes with out dated clones thanks to the potential 6 million addtional skill points.


We have some plans to help mitigate those challenges but nothing quite ready to announce yet.



So basically, 2 months more of ignoring the obvious problem and lying to players only to come back and say, tough luck guys, you're screwed for all the reasons you warned us about b/c we think we know something.

I guess the years of telling players, hey, you can stop training an account at any time and not pay for higher clone cost was a lie. As well as forcing players to always buy a more expensive clone... thus hurting their pocket and risk factors.

Good player relationship bro's.


Hey Yaay how about you be proactive for once in your life and if you know its going to boost your clone up and you're worried about it you upgrade your clone before the patch

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-02-09 00:55:08 UTC
Maybe you could try getting better at Eve so you're not being constantly podded?

abloobloobloo my clone costs abloobloobloo

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
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