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CCP wants MORE -10 suicide alts! Evidence? Crimewatch.

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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#1 - 2013-02-08 22:51:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Herr Wilkus
Sometimes you just have to learn how to read the tea leaves. Ignore the happy talk and PR - just look at what the DEVs do with their code.

For example: In 2012, CCP decided that they wanted more AFK mining, scripting, mass multiboxing and otherwise disengaged gameplay in EVE.

So they created the ultimate Lazy Boy Exhumer, made it fairly gank resistant, while buffing Concord and restricting gankers. Result? Mission accomplished! Solo player - multibox operations are multiplying, and bots are common. Ice prices are at all time lows. And miners (as a class) are as dumb as ever, fail fits even MORE common than I remember during HG V.

SO.....
...what did CCP intend for Crimewatch? For some, it is just a set of pretty icons and a new suspect flag.
For me, it was a clear message - etched in stone.

CCP wants more -10 suicide alts.

Life in highsec was supposed to be made more difficult for suicide gankers, and it was.....
......but ONLY if you intend to suicide gank with your 'highsec' main, and rat the penalties away.

If 'Kill Rights' are not dealt with, it could be very hard for a would-be ganker to do typical highsec activities, such as flying freighters, mining or missions for their duration. In fact, the risk is so high - some would argue that you would be stupid to even attempt it. CCP intends for all casual 'criminals' to be incapable of participating in normal highsec activity for up to 30 days.

On the other hand, NONE of these penalties affect the ubiquitous -10 suicide alt.....

1. Killrights?
Completely pointless, as they are already 'free' to engage, with or without Killrights. I notice my butthurt carebear victims still try to sell the worthless KR's to the public for ISK - in my judgement making them little better than a scammer, and deserving of the asskicking they got.

2. Increased sec status penalties for failed ganks if Crimewatch?

Pfffft. -10 alt don't care!!! Doesn't matter if you fired and missed, fired and killed, or Smartbombed and podded a crowd. There is no endless ratting in your future. That particular hell is for someone less.....specilized. For you? Just a 15 minute GCC 'timeout' before you reboard and the carnage continues. Score!

3. Bounties = New Insurance for suicide gankers
As I've stated before - suicide gankers' alts collect bounties - on themselves! Thus, Bounties are actually ADVANTAGEOUS for a -10 Alt. Simple as whoring your own killmail. Sure Concord did most of the work, but you reap the rewards. Best of all, THIS insurance has no premium. The carebears you GANKED paid it for you! So nice of them. I've collected 150M ISK of Whitehound's bounty cash - in just a few days.

What is the lesson?? Simple.
CCP wants players to perform suicide ganking in highsec with dedicated -10 alts, NOT 'generalist' characters.
Penalites were heaped upon one type of ganker, while life was actually improved for the other.

So, what are you waiting for? Who are you to deny the word of the Creator?
Roll up that alt today and start training for Catalysts and Light Neutron Blaster IIs. Pronto.
Adventure awaits. Pirate
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#2 - 2013-02-08 22:54:47 UTC
~4 days~

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Tubrug1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-02-08 22:54:58 UTC
Congratulations, you've just worked out what the New Order started doing 3 months ago.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2013-02-08 22:59:06 UTC
Tubrug1 wrote:
Congratulations, you've just worked out what the New Order started doing 3 months ago.


And what Bat Country started doing 12 months agoStraight
Tubrug1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-02-08 23:00:35 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Tubrug1 wrote:
Congratulations, you've just worked out what the New Order started doing 3 months ago.


And what Bat Country started doing 12 months agoStraight


A case of double stupid
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#6 - 2013-02-08 23:01:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Herr Wilkus
Tubrug1 wrote:
Congratulations, you've just worked out what the New Order started doing 3 months ago.


You are, of course, assuming I just now 'worked it out' and am just now posting about it. And that is incorrect.

Rather, I am commenting on the situation because I find it hilarious.
And I am encouraging people to do what CCP is cleverly signaling for us to do.

Perhaps its a play to drive players to open more accounts? Would fit the pattern.

EDIT: I don't know anything about tubrug1, but baltec, you should know better.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#7 - 2013-02-08 23:03:16 UTC
I will have you know that Heretic Army has never given two ***** about any of the penalties you described. However, ganking became much harder now that exhumers have actual hitpoints. :( :(

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Tubrug1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-02-08 23:04:23 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Tubrug1 wrote:
Congratulations, you've just worked out what the New Order started doing 3 months ago.


You are, of course, assuming I just now 'worked it out' and am just now posting about it. And that is incorrect.

Rather, I am commenting on the situation because I find it hilarious.
And I am encouraging people to do what CCP is cleverly signaling for us to do.

Perhaps its a play to drive players to open more accounts? Would fit the pattern.

EDIT: I don't know anything about tubrug1, but baltec, you should know better.


I've got a spare tinfoil hat if you want it.
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#9 - 2013-02-08 23:05:38 UTC
Tubrug1 wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Tubrug1 wrote:
Congratulations, you've just worked out what the New Order started doing 3 months ago.


You are, of course, assuming I just now 'worked it out' and am just now posting about it. And that is incorrect.

Rather, I am commenting on the situation because I find it hilarious.
And I am encouraging people to do what CCP is cleverly signaling for us to do.

Perhaps its a play to drive players to open more accounts? Would fit the pattern.

EDIT: I don't know anything about tubrug1, but baltec, you should know better.


I've got a spare tinfoil hat if you want it.


Only if it repels bad trolling attempts. If thats the case, I certainly need it.
Tubrug1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-02-08 23:07:00 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Tubrug1 wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Tubrug1 wrote:
Congratulations, you've just worked out what the New Order started doing 3 months ago.


You are, of course, assuming I just now 'worked it out' and am just now posting about it. And that is incorrect.

Rather, I am commenting on the situation because I find it hilarious.
And I am encouraging people to do what CCP is cleverly signaling for us to do.

Perhaps its a play to drive players to open more accounts? Would fit the pattern.

EDIT: I don't know anything about tubrug1, but baltec, you should know better.


I've got a spare tinfoil hat if you want it.


Only if it repels bad trolling attempts. If thats the case, I certainly need it.


I was just saying that's.... Deep thinking.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-02-08 23:12:16 UTC
So...the crimewatch system encourages the development of a subclass of people devoted exclusively to criminality, while discouraging normal citizens from engaging in said crimes?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2013-02-08 23:15:33 UTC
Tubrug1 wrote:


A case of double stupid


It still made us filthy richBlink
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#13 - 2013-02-08 23:15:47 UTC
Takseen wrote:
So...the crimewatch system encourages the development of a subclass of people devoted exclusively to criminality, while discouraging normal citizens from engaging in said crimes?


Apt way of putting it.
Actually sounds kind of familiar. (*cough* gun control!)
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-02-08 23:20:16 UTC
I don't know. Mineral prices are pretty high right now.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2013-02-08 23:21:03 UTC
In null...no one gives a **** if youre -10.
In low... only SOME people give a **** if youre -10.
In WH... no one gives a **** if youre -10, only that you are there in their hole.
In high... only -10 people give a **** if theyre -10, and the people who hunt -10s and concord.


Im trying to say "who gives a ****?"

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#16 - 2013-02-08 23:21:25 UTC
Tubrug1 wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Tubrug1 wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Tubrug1 wrote:
Congratulations, you've just worked out what the New Order started doing 3 months ago.


You are, of course, assuming I just now 'worked it out' and am just now posting about it. And that is incorrect.

Rather, I am commenting on the situation because I find it hilarious.
And I am encouraging people to do what CCP is cleverly signaling for us to do.

Perhaps its a play to drive players to open more accounts? Would fit the pattern.

EDIT: I don't know anything about tubrug1, but baltec, you should know better.


I've got a spare tinfoil hat if you want it.


Only if it repels bad trolling attempts. If thats the case, I certainly need it.


I was just saying that's.... Deep thinking.


Now, I'm not convinced you'd recognize it if you saw it.
Clearly, you misunderstood the purpose of the post, and who it was aimed at.
Whitehound
#17 - 2013-02-08 23:51:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Herr Wilkus wrote:
So, what are you waiting for? Who are you to deny the word of the Creator?
Roll up that alt today and start training for Catalysts and Light Neutron Blaster IIs. Pronto.
Adventure awaits. Pirate

Where is the candy?!

I want men with candy telling me to get in.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#18 - 2013-02-08 23:56:18 UTC
afk cloaker threads are more exciting, sadly there are not enough of them so we have to read this stuff.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Arec Bardwin
#19 - 2013-02-09 00:03:05 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
3. Bounties = New Insurance for suicide gankers
As I've stated before - suicide gankers' alts collect bounties - on themselves! Thus, Bounties are actually ADVANTAGEOUS for a -10 Alt. Simple as whoring your own killmail. Sure Concord did most of the work, but you reap the rewards. Best of all, THIS insurance has no premium. The carebears you GANKED paid it for you! So nice of them. I've collected 150M ISK of Whitehound's bounty cash - in just a few days.
Quite brilliant, but wouldn't it be wise to just STFU about it and exploit it in silence? Your victims might stop placing those bounties....
stoicfaux
#20 - 2013-02-09 00:06:59 UTC
Addendum: Iteron Vs only taking 33 minutes to train in the summer expansion is more proof that CCP secretly wants us all to be -10 high-sec alts that prey on miners and haulers.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

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