EVE General Discussion

What does this have to do with anything?

CCP stated for a long time they were going to change how the AI worked. I wasn't against the change, but I think they went about this change poorly (as opposed to how they did wormholes and incursions). yes, people have been asking for improved pve for a long time, but they weren't asking for things to be made EASIER like you are.

And that's the difference. You're asking for something to make what you do easier (just like you protested the new AI because you feel like you lost something, unlike me who protested the new AI on purely philosophical grounds).

Ask for a GOOD, reasonable change that's not just your ignorant "don't know much about the game" "gimmie gimmie" stuff and people will back you, and CCP has and will consider good changes. But what you're posting about is just lazy crap man. Go to null the same way thousands of us have, with creativity , friends and effort.

Stop trying to make eve a casual game.



It doesn't matter if it might encourage more people into null. changing the game to make ships never ever die might (briefly) get more people to play eve, do you think that's a good idea too?

Have you even bothered to consider the downsides? Bypass wormholes go both ways, so people in null sec will be more able to do what I do now, use them to make logistics in and out of null easier with transport ships Null sec is already to easy to get around with jump bridges, jump freighters, Titan bridges, and carriers. There is already to much of that and more would be bad for the game.

But you "hey,. I got a brilliant idea" people never think of downsides (or the fact that you don't have enough information to form an opinion". In your shallow/selfish and short sighted urge to get to null easier for a few hours of fun, you are suggesting a change that other people with more than a few hours to spare WILL exploit to exacerbate existing game mechanics and balance problems.

It's not about you having fun or me not wanting you to (why in hell do you think I'd care, i don't know you dude). It's about this game we all play, and attempts by you types to turn it away from what it is ....because your wife won't let you play it much. Screw that man, adapt of gtfo.

OK, see here, is where we have the failure to communicate.
I don't see the ISK as a reward. I find the *find* as a reward. ISK is only a tool that allows me to do the things I find rewarding.

I troll with this alt. I create crazy chases and stir things up. I streak through active fights, dump crap on people's doorsteps, and anything else I can think of to get a good chase going. The crowning achievement (so far) of this alt's career was causing a hot-drop - And getting away! I don't make a single ISK off any of that. I *do* get to match wits and reflexes with some rather skilled pilots. Also with some not-so-skilled pilots. I'm not there to make ISK - I'm there for the action. I die in a lot of fires, but that's also part of the action.

When I need ISK, I fire up a toon that has the right skills, and do whatever activities are going to generate lots of ISK, however borning it may be. I'd never bother hunting down rare WH manifestations for the sole puprpose of going Nul-Sec ratting for ISK. Complete waste of time - I can get there faster and more reliably by running gates. I *might* however, go hunting those WHs for the sole purpose of finding such a rarity. Especially if I was doing it from some Nul-Sec system where I wasn't welcome.

Hey you called me a Dude and told me to GTFO - i love this Eve community - Im part of it at last.

You're not a real member of the EVE community until you've walked to Jita uphill, bare foot in the snow. Now get cracking.

Thank you.


Common enough human behavior. Indeed, pretty much 100% of the planet does it, at some level or another.
Every now and again, there comes a moment of clarity when you realize that's what's happening.

I play the game to have fun. My object is common enough: Adrenaline. My means of extracting said reward may be a bit unusual, but I daresay they're recognizable enough. Some folks get it by doing Pew-Pew, others by scamming, or whatever. I do it by either causing a ruckus and escaping (or trying to) or by silently stalking - then bombing - someone.

For those who have fun with adrenaline, things like ratting or gatecamping are just necessary evils to get more of the currency that allows us to have fun. OTOH, some folks have fun accumulating that currency. I don't 'get' that, but I don't have to. There are many ways of having fun, very many of which I simply don't understand at an instinctual level. Doesn't matter.

But trying to set up situations what enhance your game at the expense of someone else's game is... missing the point of a sandbox. We have this nice big diverse area in which to play. Find a way to have fun, within the confines of the existing structure - That is the challenge. Or go do something else.

IRT the OP, I mistook him for a Trophy Hunter - Someone who likes collecting rare WH finds. Seems that isn't the case. Seems he's asking the sandbox to change shape to suit him. Dirty pool, Sir!
(There's a reason why I don't post often in the "Gankers/Miners/Pubbies/Nul-Sukkors are Killing EVE" threads. )

Or just leave a clone in NPC Nul.

Ha ha ha. A 1 jump out of Aldik, some 0.7 minnie system lies the lowsec system Eugrana, which is sometmes camped by a bunch of brave souls in impressive ships in an aptly named corporation. Once you jump into the neighbouring nullsec system with your crappy T1 Battlecruiser you can pretty much rat/roam some minor renter's space for hours because the residents cower in fear in their shiny POSes. Especially if you flick that cloak on and off. They must hate that.

I kind of agree the ratio between C1/3 WH's and nullsec entries I find favours W-space by a very large degree. If anything, connecting lowsec with lowsec more in random and chaotic ways (Wh entries)... now that's an interesting proposition.

Today I thought to myself that I should get in stealth bomber and see how far I can get into null sec before someone kills me for visiting.

That or stay cloaked and say hi to everyone in local every 15 minutes.

Seems he's asking the sandbox to change shape to suit him.

Not really - but whats the difference between that and you asking for the sandbox to stay in the shape it is to suit you?

They sound tough enough for me -- Im on my way.

A long time back I remember making a big effort over a week of one hour sessions, going around Catch and making safe spots around gates etc. for future exploration work.

There were these paranoid loons shouting Spy Spy at me and spitting there dummies out. i had about 2 million skillpoints a high mileage Magnate and no idea where I was going.

The first time I took my Arbitrator in I got scrammed in micro seconds and was dead before I could say " is that a bubble in front of me" let alone think of a tactic.

My solitary Ninja event last week was FUN and a rush. sorry to sue the F word in these very serious forums.

But thanks for telling me where to go ( politely) !