EVE General Discussion

Can't claim 300. But I can claim 104, almost all redspace. The rest was orange, except the first and last systems.
That was back before I moved into Nul forever. Was fun - I had folks hanging on every post of my dangerspace travelogue.

They are valuable in the same way as any other scanner find; in that they open up some content with the potential to make some ISK. The thing is that by far the majority of scan results are NPC based challenges. There is the possiblilty of PC's finding me in the site and I've lost a few ships that way, but I sort of know most of the guys where I live and I know the ones to keep an eye on.

Jumping into someplace that has an entirely different population just creates more content. That is the magic of Eve for me.

And wait a minute, how do W-space dwellers figure in? This is only about the frequency of null to empire wormholes.

If you're talking W-Space at all, you have to be prepared to talk W-Space crazies, too. 'Cause the day you use one of my WHs as a shortcut may very well the day I strike up a conversation with you. And in W-Space, even friendly & polite conversations start with a bomb to the face.

Now, if you're looking for a bit of content and action, keep on scanning. One of these days, you're going to be taking that shortcut, and we're going to have that conversation. And you will remember it, and tell stories about it for a long time, no matter how it works out for you.
But... If those shortcuts are more common, you will have fewer special memories. And that would be sad.

I never fail to enjoy my W-space time, those are indeed some of my great EveO stories. However this thread has nothing to do with W-space. The OP is talking about wormholes that go directly from lowsec into nullsec. They are very uncommon but they do occur. And its a lot of fun to go through and rat in some backwater null system where you have to really worry about the locals finding you. That I think is all he is looking at.

I think the OP is trying to incorporate what Aion did with their portals. There was a set # of portals to opposite ends of the world that were open for a set amount of time. Some opened to newbish areas, others to hostile npc L50 areas.

All of them encouraged pvp. None of them were safe, and based on races, couldn't interact anyways. It was for pure invasion type tactics of either having a small roam gang enter for fun, or sometimes the server would be able to get a PUG of 100s. (There was no mass to collapse, only a timer).

This made things possible to both corpse cannon your way through, or haul ass to far far reaches of areas to camp other areas to effectively grief the "other side" (Elyos versus Asmodean).

I can see why people would want something more akin like this to bypass gate camping, and even having some sort of timer instead of collapse point might even be good.

But the REASON for them I think is wrong. You either have and want gate camps, or you want to introduce a seperate mechanic to split the ends of the universe for normal supply routes, ie- more of an island based sov.

Both would be bad.

Finding one that goes to space that you can actually use ie. not swarming with locals, is very rare; I found 3 last year. And its not the best ISK, its just ratting ISK.

The base idea is that reward should scale to rarity, sort of the scanners motto. As it stands now the rarity of those wormholes is far more significant than their reward, the OP was just suggesting that they be brought a bit closer together. They are a fun couple of hours and it wouldn't hurt to see a few more of them.

I happen to agree with him. It may be right idk, but I have found them to be fun and would like to see a few more as well. Maybe the unintended consequences are the reason CCP has made these connections so rare.

The point is - that has encouraged me to look at null with more enthusiasm. if more lo and hi sec players had that opportunity more would leave hi and lo sec and play a part in 0.0.

As we have 'some' 0.0 access already, I just want the actual level verified and perhaps the % increased.

I dont have team mates but I had my only support - AI rats - removed by Retribution - so now Im doing what is asked and moving around a bit more to make the game happen for me again. i've had combat in null sec so surely Im doing what is asked of a lo sec carebear - mixing it a bit.

But NO! Wails of "Your not allowed to surprise us - you've got to come through a clearly marked route so we can murder you at will"

No way!

And again you're clinging to a false belief that suits you rather than listening to what's being told to you. This is the 2nd thread I can remember you starting where you psot something dumb then get butt hurt when it's explained to you.

PVP from these kinds of bypass wormholes "("surprising people" like you call it ) is great for the game (ship destruction drives the economy, surprise pvp drives the STORY of EVE).

That's not a problem, but for some reason you and that other guy seem to want to think that the general reaction to your bad idea is some kind of protectionism.

It's not, it's resistance to the idea of making things too easy. Its resistance to a "change simply for the sake of change" idea. it's resistance to a change that isn't necessary because you can already get into null sec you don't own and do stuff in various ways.

Adapt yourself to the game, don't ask for the game to be adapted to YOU.

But you don't want to do it those ways because of risk and effort, you want ccp to GIVE you an easy way into null, and you shold not have it, because to much easy stuff is bad for eve. EVE allows casual play, it is not focused on casual play, and anything they do to make it casual friendly screws it up for those of us who make time in our lives for our hobby.

You should have been smart enough to know all this,but instead you continue to blame others because you posted a bad idea that exactly ONE other poster so far thought was a great idea.

You wanna go to null thats great, put in some thought and effort like the rest of us did (or be patient and find another of those wormholes), stop crying to daddy for free stuff.

Anyways for the most part any active null PvE systems have large anchors on the bubbles. SInce grav belts are cycled through regularly and need to be rescanned, wormholes are detected very fast.

This'll make my work much easier so hey why not.

i've seen some wormholers sneak in and start ratting -0.3 anomalies in a drake
which left me somewhat confused