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Moving forward with WiS
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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-02-08 03:15:27 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I think once CCP hires some programmers that can code for more than one person in a room without frying your graphics card, we'll see some progression with WIS.

Holding your breath would be a bad idea.

Mr Epeen Cool



holding your breath is a deadly idea ,since CCP can,t spare a few Dev,s ,for some unclear reason.

R.S.I2014
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#22 - 2013-02-08 03:27:01 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
Midori Amiiko wrote:
As an idea related to what is quite possibly the least popular thing in this game, I'd like to suggest that you let us open the door, if only to meet other players docked in the same station. What would be the purpose?


Look at the thread linked in my signature. There are compelling reasons for WiS being given the same treatment as Dust 514; rather than doing a half-baked job like "open the door, if only to meet other players docked in the same station".



Giving WIS the same treatment as DUST, will take resources away from DUST back to EvE.
Surely ,we don,t want that ,do we?


Not when those resources will be applied to Dust in Space, not Eve Online.

John Hancock
Ai Shun
#23 - 2013-02-08 03:27:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Ai Shun
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Giving WIS the same treatment as DUST, will take resources away from DUST back to EvE.
Surely ,we don,t want that ,do we?


I proposed this:

Ai Shun wrote:

Funding:
Development funding for the World of Darkness team to be re-appropriate to extend the EVE Universe. Scope exists for a crowd-sourced form of funding as described here.Future funding will be handled primarily through a mixed model of subscription and PLEX. The intent is to provide social gameplay on a free to play basis with a limited set of skills available while a combination of PLEX and subscription extends the skills and gameplay options available.

This does create segregation in terms of content available to subscribers and non-subscribers; however the common, social aspects will be available to everyone.


I would much rather see the EVE Universe grow into other game genres while embodying the principles of EVE Online than see a whole separate game being built that is not in the EVE Universe.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-02-08 04:16:41 UTC
Midori Amiiko wrote:
As an idea related to what is quite possibly the least popular thing in this game, I'd like to suggest that you let us open the door, if only to meet other players docked in the same station. What would be the purpose?

There are some things that as of yet cannot be shared easily, like overview settings. I'd like to be able to go to a corpie's CQ and give them bookmarks and overview settings and stuff that I might want to share on a limited basis. I'd also like to be able to do the stuff I already can, like trading items and transferring ISK.

This way, CCP can work on WiS in a very small and discreet way, allowing two avatars to share the same space and interact in a limited fashion with very little added game mechanic to complicate things.

This dovetails with my idea of habitation modules at a POS. I'd love to have a few friends over at my space penthouse while we plan our next roam, or whatever.


Trust me sugarteets, you don't want that door to open. The flood of superfluous graphics processing will bring your system to its knees. And I'm not aware that we've made the next leap away from silicon wafers to make that level of processing power at the consumer level possible.

Don't ban me, bro!
Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-02-08 05:20:39 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Giving WIS the same treatment as DUST, will take resources away from DUST back to EvE.
Surely ,we don,t want that ,do we?


If Dust continues to grow as it is and really takes off when it goes live, CCP will officially have a new main. The resourses will go where the money is, and as it's looking now Dust is where the future of CCP is.
RAP ACTION HERO
#26 - 2013-02-08 05:38:33 UTC
corp bookmarks and xml exports of overview settings are available right now, why drag avatars into this, unseemly desperate.

vitoc erryday
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-02-08 07:47:38 UTC
Adding superfluous gameplay vacuums to Eve or siphoning off existing features to become 'WiS only' features would be a poor use of development resources.

CCP should apply their WiS related efforts to providing new ways for players to interact with the Eve universe and each other, not repackage the same old mechanics in a new shiny and resource-hogging format.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#28 - 2013-02-08 08:40:50 UTC
WiS........ Oh Come to me Please xD

Threads like this make me sad cause I already know the answer and I will have to wait a long time for it...

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#29 - 2013-02-08 11:04:58 UTC
Dust should have Been WIS ...

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-02-08 11:28:49 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
make a conference room so that us elite corp and alliance leaders can sit around a big space table while our leader talks to us via holovid screen and we all talk in faux-british accents about alliance affairs


sounds cool, I'd support that.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#31 - 2013-02-08 13:46:19 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
None. Everything you cited as a reason can be done quicker and easier from the trade window, or using normal inventory functions with a hanger.


True. If I understand correctly the big mistake CCP did was get rid of the hanger when they introduced WiS which was quickly remedied. I am one of those that became interested when Incarna was introduced and also hope to see WiS someday, but I also believe that it should always be optional. I wonder what is the percentage of players who currently toggle on the CQ. That being said I can understand how WiS should be categorized with other graphical improvements instead of something important like ship/skill balancing or game mechanics. I'm a bit torn with some of the early work Team Avatar was doing with the EVA missions, and would rather see smaller incremental additions for WiS like maybe more CQ designs, or more television content for an easy starting point.
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-02-08 14:39:33 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
make a conference room so that us elite corp and alliance leaders can sit around a big space table while our leader talks to us via holovid screen and we all talk in faux-british accents about alliance affairs

I find your lack of respect for alliance leaders...Disturbing.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2013-02-08 14:44:38 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
That's because roleplayers by definition comprehend that they are playing a game, putting them a tier above carebears who equate pixel crime with real life morality

And 2 tiers above players who are so uncomfortable with the idea that they like playing with imaginary spaceships, they better be an a55 to everyone, to show how awesome they really are.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-02-08 14:45:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ovv Topik
Yea I'm pointing at you Goonies and Testis.

Edit: I'm glad that bounty button hasn't been added yet.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-02-08 17:01:18 UTC
Soulpirate wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Giving WIS the same treatment as DUST, will take resources away from DUST back to EvE.
Surely ,we don,t want that ,do we?


If Dust continues to grow as it is and really takes off when it goes live, CCP will officially have a new main. The resourses will go where the money is, and as it's looking now Dust is where the future of CCP is.



Well ,then the big anti WIS crowd here get,s what it wanted .
Stop EvE from growing by demanding a five men dev team removed only to be redirected to DuSTcrap

But at least they will get their next rebalancing expansion next summer

R.S.I2014
Verfanny
Brave Empire Inc.
Brave United
#36 - 2013-02-08 18:13:40 UTC
Soulpirate wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Giving WIS the same treatment as DUST, will take resources away from DUST back to EvE.
Surely ,we don,t want that ,do we?


If Dust continues to grow as it is and really takes off when it goes live, CCP will officially have a new main. The resourses will go where the money is, and as it's looking now Dust is where the future of CCP is.


Growing is not a problem for a free to play game. Keeping those created accounts active is.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-02-08 18:39:19 UTC
Verfanny wrote:
Soulpirate wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Giving WIS the same treatment as DUST, will take resources away from DUST back to EvE.
Surely ,we don,t want that ,do we?


If Dust continues to grow as it is and really takes off when it goes live, CCP will officially have a new main. The resourses will go where the money is, and as it's looking now Dust is where the future of CCP is.


Growing is not a problem for a free to play game. Keeping those created accounts active is.


The real challenge is making money out of them. If 10 million players stick with Dust for years and years but none of them get out their credit cards and hit the microtransaction market, CCP has a major problem.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Verfanny
Brave Empire Inc.
Brave United
#38 - 2013-02-08 18:47:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Verfanny
Scatim Helicon wrote:

The real challenge is making money out of them. If 10 million players stick with Dust for years and years but none of them get out their credit cards and hit the microtransaction market, CCP has a major problem.


There's that too, the game is free to play but if people play for free then it isn't good. So far I've not felt the need to buy from the AUR store, but I am an horrible FPS player on PC, so I let you imagine how bad I am on console with a controller.
Caldari Citizen 20120308
Doomheim
#39 - 2013-02-08 18:48:14 UTC
Until it doesn't kick my video card into overdrive, i'll continue to look at the still picture of docking.
Whitehound
#40 - 2013-02-08 19:05:04 UTC
I have already forgotten about this door...

If it is that important then put a toilet there.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.