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I'm all for having complicated concepts that are complicated for a reason.

The ship skill mess was just a relic of half baked implementations of new ideas though, so streamlining that was long overdue.
Tbh, it shouldn't have been such a mess in the first place.

I think that the whole idea of this skill rebalance is just despite the fact that it surely simplifies the training a bit. In fact it make the game more newbie friendly than simple. Now the fact that you can fly Recons does not imply that you can fly coverts and thus it is still hard to train everything. However newbies will be able to go another training paths than old players had to. They may be will train carriers first and T2 ships after that because every t1 ship size is pretty much accessible. Well, may be the first weeks will be more of "I need to get money for BS asap" than "oh **** now I have to wait 1 more week to operate BS" and thus require much more active gameplay than it was before. And hell yes, everything for those who have ISK!

And for sake of justice never forget that hull skills are only the small part of skills one have to train to operate ship properly. One will have to invest a lot into core/gunnery skills before he will be actually capable of using larger hull sizes properly.

Every time they simplify the game a little - there is a lot of difficulties still left... until it's not. A bittervet can remember learning skills, no warp-to-zero, old-school probing, and all that things that I have no idea of.
An interesting observation - CCP is fixing a lot of things that players have never complained of. Meanwhile, a lot of long-overdue problems remain unsolved...

I know most of you have been here longer then me, but do these changes not worry you at all? I have played almost every MMO out there and this is the only one that me and my friends have stuck with through the years. Eve is slowly shifting to accommodate a different player base then there core players. I say that because if you look at the shift in popular games as World of Warcraft or age of conan both i have played for a long time, they made it so easy to do anything that it's not worth the wait or time to even play anymore. They have pushed out there core players be
cause it got overrun by the ( i want it now players ) and are now trying to make and keep them happy, that play get everything they want and then get bored and move on. i see this happening to EVE slowly and it is sad because working and building anticipation to own and or use a ship and know that anyone else has to put in same time or more time and effort to get the same or better. The whole reason the market is as successful as it is in EVE is due to the fact that it takes months to skill train a ship. Don't forget why there is all these ( stupid repeditive tedious ) little things you have to do is what keeps you ahead of other players and sets each player apart from each other and creates competition between others as most people get lazy, so if the game caters to that then people will get bored because the game will then be to easy and they will ask for ( more ) (new) etc and so on and never be happy. The point is no one will ever be happy so you have to decide when it is just pure laziness or if it really is a problem. ( most the time though it is just laziness ) I am not saying all the changes are bad but some are just way to easy... Mix it up add new skills etc do not take them away from any ship if anything add more. The realism of space and the depth of the skills that go into EVE is what is so intriguing to anyone that starts or is still playing EVE, Do you see pilots flying in real life 747 jets without first learning everything about most every plane including prop planes and small jets before they can even touch a 747? That is my point. I understand it is a game but how many space games offer the realism that EVE offers>?? We like the game hard to play as that is what keeps you and I coming back. If i want an easy game ill go download an app on the ipod or play COD etc. We have many options to play easy games. The people whining about how long it takes is just the type that ( want it now ) and have no patience. I know i would not keep playing if i could just get everything as easy as in WOW or other games the like. As that is why i do not play them anymore and why they have to keep screwing up other games so much because they did not know that they pushed there main player base out.

Good day fellow pilots! Be heard don't let them cater to the LAziessss!

Only Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills get reimbursed as mentioned in the blog. Racial battleships skills are however useful to have no matter what.

A bit yes, but that's still one of the most fitting skills we could see for the whole Recon class.

In your opinion. I would never have trained BSV if I didn't have too in three races. I only did it for Carriers and Dreads. It might be useful but not to me. I don't fly marauders, never have done, never will do. I'd like my 100+ days of training back, there's no good reason for you guys not to do this since BSV will no longer be a requirement.

It's not stupid, it's actually part of the Tiericide initiative. A tech1 ship shouldn't require the corresponding skill at 5 to fly. There also shouldn't be such thing as "the best tech1 industrial".

While getting new players in remains a noble side-goal, the main reason this is being done is to give each and every single ship with a proper role, not to leave them as crappy transition steps. Transition steps don't work in sandbox MMOs.

I dont want to have to retrain new prerequisites just to increase my ship level of something i have already trained.

It's displayed that way because the skill requirement tab UI is a mess, and of technical reasons we need to look into at. Yes it's confusing