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Itty V - From 24d down to 33 min?
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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-02-08 08:03:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
I think people are missing the positives...

17 day old char flying around in an Orca during a war. Yes you get old players doing that to but now there will be a lot more.

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Generals4
#22 - 2013-02-08 08:09:33 UTC
Where can i find this glorious information which has caused such tears?

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-02-08 08:23:40 UTC
Generals4 wrote:
Where can i find this glorious information which has caused such tears?

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74234

Quote:
Industrials

All ship skill requirements reduced from 1-5 to 1. We want to overhaul Industrials roles as part of the Tiericide initiative and this is the first step in that direction. Watch out for more details when they are ready for player feedback.
Racial Frigate skill requirement removed from the Industrial skill
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-02-08 08:32:33 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.

The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.

Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.

WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?


Apparently I no longer need to play at all, because CCP harvests tears for me.

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Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#25 - 2013-02-08 08:43:32 UTC
Do you think they'll take the 1-4s out of the game?
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-02-08 09:15:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Frank Millar
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
Do you think they'll take the 1-4s out of the game?

I read somewhere (can't remember where) the Itty 2 and 4 would be taken out, and the other 3 "rebalanced"

Or something. Maybe.

@ OP: you're being hysterical. Stahp.
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#27 - 2013-02-08 09:23:13 UTC
I haven't flown the iteron V since I was a newb, so I don't see the big deal.
Sebroth
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-02-08 09:30:34 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
... 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling ...


you are no seasoned vet if you still belive sp>experience
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#29 - 2013-02-08 09:31:06 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
e: although you do wonder how you can make five different industrials perform five different roles. going from 'light with smallish cargo space' to 'slow with tons of cargo' over five ships will mean only two are used - the smallest and the biggest. there'll be a 'tanky' one, no doubt about that, but that leaves two more ships to find roles for?
I guess the bigger question is, since one race has 5, and others 2 industrials;

Is CCP going to give all races 5 industrials and try to build roles for all of them, or are we going to see the removal of ships for the first time in EVE?
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-02-08 09:35:17 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?

this is result of "think about new player! he will never be able to catch up!"

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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#31 - 2013-02-08 09:39:09 UTC
i am curius as to what changes they will be making to the industrial ships, since atm the clear choice does seem to be the half hour wait to hop into an itty V now.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-02-08 09:44:06 UTC
Just think of it as more clueless people in pricey ships. You can just tell that a "noob" will skip all industrials and just go straight to Itty V, he will then fill it with ALL his assets and autopilot somewhere, probably lowsec. Or you know....he'll mine in it.

These guys aren't doing you any harm......

Infact, Itty Vs are gonna go up demand wise :P
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#33 - 2013-02-08 09:47:01 UTC
All I am seeing is more people to fly orca's and large industrial ships full of goodies into lowsec and then dieing in a fire....

/P

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2013-02-08 09:49:21 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.

The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.

Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.

WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?

You clearly do not understand much do you?

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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#35 - 2013-02-08 09:50:13 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Infact, Itty Vs are gonna go up demand wise :P
They might, or they might not. Depends what "tiercide" has in store for them.

It didn't really drive demand for the Hulk when they did it to barges/exhumers Blink
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-02-08 09:50:16 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Just think of it as more clueless people in pricey ships. You can just tell that a "noob" will skip all industrials and just go straight to Itty V, he will then fill it with ALL his assets and autopilot somewhere, probably lowsec. Or you know....he'll mine in it.

yea.
because TODAY every n00b gets his first Itty I, fill it with ALL his assets and autopilot elsewere, probably lowsec. (c)
Lol

PS: actually i'm happy with it because i was never able to dedicate 24 days for training to Itty V and after summer i will have it for free.
Lazy boy won!Cool

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-02-08 10:06:29 UTC
Why do I have the feeling my clone cost is going to skyrocket when those skill changes hit?

Hope they do something about it...

OP, if noobs can get easier in to higher class ships I think it's good. They can't use them properly as you do with all your skills and provide nice killmails with expensive stuff they can barely fit.

This is good.

CCP, do something for clone costs, NAO !!

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Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-02-08 10:16:29 UTC
My opinion for itty balancing. .mk1 tank. .mk2 speed .mk3 balanced .mk4 warp.core stability .mk5 capacious.

I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
Kate stark
#39 - 2013-02-08 10:42:32 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Why do I have the feeling my clone cost is going to skyrocket when those skill changes hit?


because you understood the very simple system the first time it was announced, and trained destroyers and BCs to V, all racial frigs to IV, and all racial cruisers to III?

as did every other player with more than two brain cells and was interested in free sp/saving themselves some time at some point in the future?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2013-02-08 11:11:09 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back?


200$ for 40 days of training? Yeah... I'll keep the money.

Karl Hobb wrote:
Atomic Virulent wrote:
Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back?

Oh holy **** a n00b with **** fitting skills and no real idea how to play the game might get into an Orca in less time than it took me!


You missed a "batman" over there and it would have been perfect.

Benny Ohu wrote:
reckon the new itty v's going to move like a cow

and a dead cow at that

e: although you do wonder how you can make five different industrials perform five different roles. going from 'light with smallish cargo space' to 'slow with tons of cargo' over five ships will mean only two are used - the smallest and the biggest. there'll be a 'tanky' one, no doubt about that, but that leaves two more ships to find roles for?


That's a least 1 more type of ship than the ones flown currently. Lol