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Itty V - From 24d down to 33 min?
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Atomic Virulent
Embargo.
#1 - 2013-02-08 05:33:09 UTC
In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.

The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.

Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.

WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#2 - 2013-02-08 05:36:43 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.

The fact that you're crying about this is hilarious because those skills aren't trainable on a trial account.

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Atomic Virulent
Embargo.
#3 - 2013-02-08 05:39:40 UTC
Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back?
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#4 - 2013-02-08 05:43:00 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back?

Oh holy **** a n00b with **** fitting skills and no real idea how to play the game might get into an Orca in less time than it took me!

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BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#5 - 2013-02-08 05:43:59 UTC
vov I trained my Orca alt, I don't mind the decrease in time for others to train it

However I think its silly the Ittty V is so quick to train for now, not cause of others who have trained for it but rather because it pretty much obsoletes most every other T1 industrial
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#6 - 2013-02-08 05:46:16 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
However I think its silly the Ittty V is so quick to train for now, not cause of others who have trained for it but rather because it pretty much obsoletes most every other T1 industrial

It'll get a rebalance, so nothing to worry about.

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BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#7 - 2013-02-08 05:49:51 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
BadAssMcKill wrote:
However I think its silly the Ittty V is so quick to train for now, not cause of others who have trained for it but rather because it pretty much obsoletes most every other T1 industrial

It'll get a rebalance, so nothing to worry about.



Oh yeah I'm sure it will eventually but for the time being it creates a bit of an imbalance
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-02-08 05:50:41 UTC
Believe it or not, ships tend to have hull bonuses for the skills! This means that while you can fly an Iteron V with Gallente Industrial I, you'll still want to train that skill up to get more cargo space (and speed, hurrr) out of it.

What's the problem?

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Spurty
#9 - 2013-02-08 05:58:56 UTC

This is unacceptable!

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The Executives
#10 - 2013-02-08 06:01:31 UTC
Andski wrote:
Believe it or not, ships tend to have hull bonuses for the skills! This means that while you can fly an Iteron V with Gallente Industrial I, you'll still want to train that skill up to get more cargo space (and speed, hurrr) out of it.

What's the problem?


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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#11 - 2013-02-08 06:10:59 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back?


And what can he do with that Orca?

Can't boost. Can't mine. Can haul, but not that well.

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Washichu May
Psilocybin Research
#12 - 2013-02-08 06:21:13 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.

The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.

Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.

WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?



Get over yourself. Back in 2003 people mined in imicus for a week to buy a thorax.

If you want to be a EDIT: No profanity, please - ISD Tyrozan for new people, maybe you should be pushed back into that paradigm and make ISK old-school way.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#13 - 2013-02-08 06:26:06 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.

The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.

Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.

WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?


I would love for you to show me where a trial account can train Industrial Command Ships.

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#14 - 2013-02-08 06:34:17 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
BadAssMcKill wrote:
However I think its silly the Ittty V is so quick to train for now, not cause of others who have trained for it but rather because it pretty much obsoletes most every other T1 industrial

It'll get a rebalance, so nothing to worry about.



Oh yeah I'm sure it will eventually but for the time being it creates a bit of an imbalance


Actually not, as these changes will hit TQ during summer, hopefully at the same time of the industrials rebalance.

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-02-08 06:45:41 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.

The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.

Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.

WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?




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The Troll Bridge
#16 - 2013-02-08 06:54:50 UTC
Spurty wrote:

This is unacceptable!

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-02-08 07:05:22 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Atomic Virulent wrote:
In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.

The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.

Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.

WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?

OHNOES IT TAKES HALF HOUR TO TRAIN FOR A ITTY 5 NAO!


pfft. back in my day it took nearly a month to get enough isk to get into a battleship, now you get the isk faster than you can skill up to BS 1. you see me complaining about this? EDIT: No profanity, please - ISD Tyrozan greenhorn...

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-02-08 07:31:49 UTC
Requiring players to train a hulltype skill to V to fly the T1 version of the hull is beyond stupid.

This was an obvious consequence of removing tiers, deal with it.

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Tubrug1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-02-08 07:32:48 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:


WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?


You can train skills in WoW?

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-02-08 07:59:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Benny Ohu
reckon the new itty v's going to move like a cow

and a dead cow at that

e: although you do wonder how you can make five different industrials perform five different roles. going from 'light with smallish cargo space' to 'slow with tons of cargo' over five ships will mean only two are used - the smallest and the biggest. there'll be a 'tanky' one, no doubt about that, but that leaves two more ships to find roles for?
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