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Suggestion: Let me spend PLEX to train a second character on the same account.
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Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-10-24 02:46:35 UTC
The title pretty much sums up the idea. For example, I have a trade alt on my main account that has (near) perfect trade skills, but it bugs me a little bit that they are not all at level 5. I would gladly pay a couple PLEX to get her training for a couple months to finish off those skills.

This seems like an easy way for you guys at CCP to get people like me (space rich) to burn through PLEX.
Maul555
Xen Investments
#2 - 2011-10-24 02:48:42 UTC
+1
ShipToaster
#3 - 2011-10-24 06:48:19 UTC
Or you could just make a new account, transfer the character to that account, train it, then transfer it back.

Even more profit for CCP.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#4 - 2011-10-24 06:59:10 UTC
Im half and half on this idea. Part of me wants to say no. The other side says yes.

Yes side wants me to say it for convience sake of not having two accounts.

No side is concerned on how multiboxing culture is going to go over this one.

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Taint
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-10-24 10:24:44 UTC
No 1 training character at a time on each acount, always been like that and should continue to stay that way.
Get another acount and start your alt on that one, will come to many stupid ideas with this if your gonna be able to train 2 char or acount.

The basic stuff in eve have been there always and should not be changed, learn to live with it or quit tbh.
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-10-24 17:19:33 UTC
+1

Maybe even give each new character on the same account 21 days of Free dual training time, like you'd get if you used the buddy invite system to start an alt.
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Ushra'Khan
#7 - 2011-10-24 17:39:50 UTC
Absolutely support, always have, idea has been suggested many many many times ... ccp = silent
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Waukesha
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-10-25 03:05:22 UTC
+1
Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2011-10-25 05:18:10 UTC
i support this one.

eve seems to be too much of people have 2+ accounts, its takes the M out of the MMO.

that would let people have the effect of two or 3 very different toons, but still requires them to play with others.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#10 - 2011-10-25 05:24:41 UTC
You can already do this, it's just a matter of having 1 account active for each character you want to train. Then use 2 PLEX to transfer the "finished" character to the main account.

Training multiple characters on one account without maintaining two accounts seems like people wanting the advantage without paying the expense. i.e.: bunch of cheapskates looking for a free lunch.

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Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#11 - 2011-10-25 18:33:54 UTC
People are always going to want to train the other two characters.

Way back, there was a lot of debate on the topic. Lots of people are going to be against it and lots of people are going to be for it. This is the best angle I've seen on the age old idea so far.

I’m rather neutral. There are other ways to buffer alts. You can buy characters, train and transfer them to and from a second account, or *shutters* sacrifice time from the main character. All of this is a hassle. Just paying PLEX for a month of training is whole lot more simple. The cost is the same as a second account (yet with less convenience). Meh.
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-10-25 19:51:48 UTC
+1 I don't see a problem, they aren't buying skillpoints, that come from no where. They are not getting free training on an extra account, a plex should buy a months worth of training, the only thing that ccp misses out on is the 20 dollar transfer fee he would have to pay if he trained on another account and then combined the accounts. The skills will take just as long to train seems like a good idea to me.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-10-25 22:28:36 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Training multiple characters on one account without maintaining two accounts seems like people wanting the advantage without paying the expense. i.e.: bunch of cheapskates looking for a free lunch.


And your point is?

The idea hurts your butt?

Someone asked you more money for other people choices?

Is your game play drastically change if someone does while you choose not to do it? (you would probably on the first ones doing so if you could)

Training 2 char in the same account in exchange of plex doesn't hurt while playing 20accounts, half of them or + boting and paying subs with plex, yes

+1 op
Tyme Xandr
Weyl Manufacturing
#14 - 2011-10-25 22:33:50 UTC
Taint wrote:
No 1 training character at a time on each acount, always been like that and should continue to stay that way.
Get another acount and start your alt on that one, will come to many stupid ideas with this if your gonna be able to train 2 char or acount.

The basic stuff in eve have been there always and should not be changed, learn to live with it or quit tbh.



This is the mentality of people crying when CCP are trying to expand the Sci Fi universe with avatars. People need to not be so scared of change because 'Its always been that way'.
Maul555
Xen Investments
#15 - 2011-10-26 01:49:54 UTC
If anything, this Idea would eventually increase those $20 character transfers after a bunch of ppl train up their alts on the same account, and then get pissed that they cant use it at the same time as the main char once it becomes a useful toon...
Taint
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-10-26 05:41:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Taint
Tyme Xandr wrote:
Taint wrote:
No 1 training character at a time on each acount, always been like that and should continue to stay that way.
Get another acount and start your alt on that one, will come to many stupid ideas with this if your gonna be able to train 2 char or acount.

The basic stuff in eve have been there always and should not be changed, learn to live with it or quit tbh.



This is the mentality of people crying when CCP are trying to expand the Sci Fi universe with avatars. People need to not be so scared of change because 'Its always been that way'.


Not crying, il be crying when you wow nerds gets eve changed, but until then im not crying.

If people want another Alt, start another acount, how hards is it ?
Tyme Xandr
Weyl Manufacturing
#17 - 2011-10-26 20:47:22 UTC
Taint wrote:
Tyme Xandr wrote:
Taint wrote:
No 1 training character at a time on each acount, always been like that and should continue to stay that way.
Get another acount and start your alt on that one, will come to many stupid ideas with this if your gonna be able to train 2 char or acount.

The basic stuff in eve have been there always and should not be changed, learn to live with it or quit tbh.



This is the mentality of people crying when CCP are trying to expand the Sci Fi universe with avatars. People need to not be so scared of change because 'Its always been that way'.


Not crying, il be crying when you wow nerds gets eve changed, but until then im not crying.

If people want another Alt, start another acount, how hards is it ?


Why should it matter?

And 'wow players'? This is the second MMO ive ever played after Earth and Beyond. Just because I think expanding EVE is a great idea doesnt mean I like WoW. Also, using a PLEX to train a second toon if someone wants to shouldnt be such a large issue to you, does it hurt your feelings or something?

So your a person whos afraid of change and makes absurd assumptions. Yeah, we should listen this this guy ...
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-10-26 22:11:33 UTC
Maul555 wrote:
If anything, this Idea would eventually increase those $20 character transfers after a bunch of ppl train up their alts on the same account


Nice point for CCP = profit


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... and then get pissed that they cant use it at the same time as the main char once it becomes a useful toon...


Then they just sub another account and pay $20 transfert again = Profit
Maul555
Xen Investments
#19 - 2011-10-27 00:50:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Maul555
This is mostly useful for the small things. Like when I just needed a half competent scan alt to store in the WH and not touch in case of an emergency. I don't need a 2nd account for something so rarely used, yet surprisingly critical. don't want to give up the train time on the main, but I am forced to because the job just isn't worth a 2nd account. I am sure there are many other such scenarios for different tasks... But some people will inevitably train up a character like its their main for a while, then fork over that $20 to CCP because of their own stupidity and lack of forethought. I don't care about them, and they should not be a reason to not implement a feature like this. Idiots get to punish themselves, CCP makes some extra cash, gets a new isk, and we all get a bit more flexibility. win - win - win - win, I don't really see any downside.