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Give Cloaking the ASB / AAR treatment
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Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#201 - 2013-02-07 09:58:54 UTC
Iminent Penance wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:
Iminent Penance wrote:


if you read other posts of mine i said remove or delay local, so.. quit hiding behind another broken mechanic to justify a broken mechanic
You'll have to link the post because I don't recall you ever saying that.

And if that's how you really feel than we are in agreement. Adding a method to hunt cloaks is fine as long as we remove the infallable local channel.


delaying it where concord isnt present, because theres no police npc force to logically "give" that intel...

Yea that's fine. Highsec doesn't benefit from local as much due to npc alts and lowsec appears to not care about cloakies.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#202 - 2013-02-07 10:50:08 UTC
Astroniomix wrote:
Iminent Penance wrote:


if you read other posts of mine i said remove or delay local, so.. quit hiding behind another broken mechanic to justify a broken mechanic
You'll have to link the post because I don't recall you ever saying that.

And if that's how you really feel than we are in agreement. Adding a method to hunt cloaks is fine as long as we remove the infallable local channel.


No it isn't, it'd make wormholes not fun :(
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#203 - 2013-02-07 10:58:02 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:
Iminent Penance wrote:


if you read other posts of mine i said remove or delay local, so.. quit hiding behind another broken mechanic to justify a broken mechanic
You'll have to link the post because I don't recall you ever saying that.

And if that's how you really feel than we are in agreement. Adding a method to hunt cloaks is fine as long as we remove the infallable local channel.


No it isn't, it'd make wormholes not fun :(

It should be a nullsec only thing. (this is the part where things get tricky)
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#204 - 2013-02-07 14:04:33 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Buzzy Warstl wrote:
And removing the roster from local chat only removes one intel source from the defender, when there are several more relevant intel sources and methods available to deal with *all* of the threats you mentioned.

Yeah, come back to me when d-scan is able to detect cloaked ships.
But I'm guessing you're going to tell me that's not going to happen, because you want to have your cake and eat it too.

You mean to tell me you think that local and dscan are the only intel tools available to an individual in nullsec, let alone a whole alliance?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

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TravelBuoy
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#205 - 2013-02-07 22:28:16 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Buzzy Warstl wrote:
Quite a few people play in WH space despite the lack of local and the player skill necessary to play there at all.

Do I really have to remind you that there are several relevant mechanics that are different between WH space and null that makes the lack of local viable in one and not the other?

Buzzy Warstl wrote:
Frankly, the local chat member display is an impediment to people playing in nullsec in general.

And yet that doesn't seem to stop us.

Buzzy Warstl wrote:
Nobody likes trying to look like they are sneaking around when they have a great big spotlight on them.

And yet that doesn't seem to stop us. Nor does it prevent us from getting kills.

Right now you can only kill ratters if they aren't paying attention to local.
If you remove local there won't be anybody ratting for you to kill.



So many coward cloaker troll write here. Forget them.