Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Currently shield/nano fleets pretty much dominate all subfleet pvp except station games. Reducing the mass on armor buffer fits and removing the rig velocity penalty on active repair rigs will help close the gap a little...

Unfortunately the tacklers from all races will likely still be forced to fly with shield extenders, but it's still a buff... Still waiting for a buff to active tanking though. Normal armor repairers and shield boosters are so underpowered for pvp these days they could really need a solid boost without threatening the balance except a few exceptions..

i think i might actually love fozzie now, hes like 50% of eve that know how to fix everything pvp wise only actually has the power to do it.

have my eve clone babies fozz, i thought you were a douche when just commenting, but now its only Michael Bolton III i hate :P

keep up the good work fozzie, you just say what everyone is thinking :D

Now fozzie here is a quotation for you when will y'all make it possible to see more armor gangs flying with theses changes. In that spec I an armor purists I love my armor fits will this have to change on how we fit the ships and how we manage them? Because the way things ate going if that shield is taking the stage with all the fleet fights which make me kinda sick of hearing about shield this and shield that. Armor is now taking the back burner . So will this make armor fleets more viable in the near future?

That and why there are 3 sub-cap armor repair mods (small, med and large) while shield has 4?

Because there is 6 armor buffer module versus 3 shield buffer module.

You can have 100 armor resist mods and still it means nothing.

Shield have invuls and active hardeners which is more than enough to be better at tanking.

My Pithum A-Type adaptive invul gives me 46% of every resists. Show me the same mod on armor tanking.

You need 1 of each specific hardener to equal the effectiveness of 2 invulns. 4 slots vs 2 slots does make a big difference.

You should really train all those uber armor skills, fly active armor tanking ships and then come back give us a couple lessons and tell us shields are underpowered.

You're not getting the core of the problem, at all.

With just 5 days till the release of 1.1 it seems much of these changes are more or less set in stone...

Fozzie, I find it rather disheartening that outside of a modest decrease in grid requirements, there have been no real changes to standard reppers. AAR are cool and all but I think you've dropped the ball on addressing some of the major concerns that have been voiced by the most experienced this community has to offer over the past 4+ years. You did not even mention the imbalance in the progression of deadspace reppers vs boosters which to me indicates you and your cohorts have done a rather sloppy job. Beyond the vast imbalance in hp per second, you missed another major issue with the dead space comparison which ends up putting the cap efficiency in favor of shield mods instead of armor reppers which is beyond short sighted. You guys need to actually start running numbers on the entirety of the comparison, not just selectively choosing what you want to focus on.

Overall I must say that this active armor tanking "buff" is nothing more than gimmick. Not impressed in the slightest.

comparing armor tank DIRECTLY with shield tank is bad mkay? Especially when the 2 ships are not designed to tank the same, but are designed to be somewhat balanced against eachother taking many stats into consideration...