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Moons - just when will ccp do anything

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Kate stark
#61 - 2013-02-07 16:04:51 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Of course people use NPC corps to avoid PVP in a game centered around and driven by consumption of ships and items for PvP - that's true, every reason I've given for removing NPC corps is true and justifies their removal. CCP devs I've talked to are of similar mind, but there's one or two living in a bubble that have yet to receive enlightenment. NPC corps hurt newbies, casuals, emergent content and everything good about EVE - and removing them would 'shake things up' in a way that improves gameplay for all players.


actually, removing npc corps wouldn't improve game play for me at all. i'd just be vulnerable to war decs with no useful compensation for that.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2013-02-07 16:11:10 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Of course people use NPC corps to avoid PVP in a game centered around and driven by consumption of ships and items for PvP - that's true, every reason I've given for removing NPC corps is true and justifies their removal. CCP devs I've talked to are of similar mind, but there's one or two living in a bubble that have yet to receive enlightenment. NPC corps hurt newbies, casuals, emergent content and everything good about EVE - and removing them would 'shake things up' in a way that improves gameplay for all players.


actually, removing npc corps wouldn't improve game play for me at all. i'd just be vulnerable to war decs with no useful compensation for that.

So would everyone else, passing on additional costs you might incur to the consumer and upping the minimal level of risk any player might incur while playing the game. You making decisions as a result of emergent content is more gameplay, ultimately making EVE a more satisfying game for all involved.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2013-02-07 16:13:01 UTC
Eastman Color wrote:
Why don't you reinforce their pos, then hide when they come to fix it.
Then do it again and again and again and again so it's not profitable.
Then when they start showing up to defend it every time it gets shot at, start turning up, firing a few shots, then hiding.
Then randomly reinforce it when they don't show up to fix it?
I'm pretty sure after a while they'll either just let you have it or offer to pay you x per month to not do what you're doing.
I'd much rather have isk sent to me each month than have to deal with a pos and selling goo.

taking out a neo moon = impossible for small solo players CCP hellllpppp
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#64 - 2013-02-07 16:16:20 UTC
Malik Doom wrote:

Bots do not equal RMT

i realize this is a mr. random thread and it is expected it will be filled with wrong things but you can really leave posting the obviously wrong things to him, he don't need no help

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Kate stark
#65 - 2013-02-07 16:18:16 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Of course people use NPC corps to avoid PVP in a game centered around and driven by consumption of ships and items for PvP - that's true, every reason I've given for removing NPC corps is true and justifies their removal. CCP devs I've talked to are of similar mind, but there's one or two living in a bubble that have yet to receive enlightenment. NPC corps hurt newbies, casuals, emergent content and everything good about EVE - and removing them would 'shake things up' in a way that improves gameplay for all players.


actually, removing npc corps wouldn't improve game play for me at all. i'd just be vulnerable to war decs with no useful compensation for that.

So would everyone else, passing on additional costs you might incur to the consumer and upping the minimal level of risk any player might incur while playing the game. You making decisions as a result of emergent content is more gameplay, ultimately making EVE a more satisfying game for all involved.


not really, i'd just unsub my accounts than be "a fish in a barrel". i pass on my additional costs to the market, prices go up, i've still got the same purchasing power except now i also have more money going out replacing ships because i'm losing them to wardecs, or i've got less coming in because i'm not undocking during a wardec.

if i'm making less isk and i'm unable to buy a plex, i'm not putting my hand in my wallet for a sub. i'll just let the account lapse while i play steam games until people get bored of wardecing me.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2013-02-07 16:22:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Kate stark wrote:
[quote=Nicolo da'Vicenza]

not really, i'd just unsub my accounts than be "a fish in a barrel". i pass on my additional costs to the market, prices go up, i've still got the same purchasing power except now i also have more money going out replacing ships because i'm losing them to wardecs, or i've got less coming in because i'm not undocking during a wardec.

if i'm making less isk and i'm unable to buy a plex, i'm not putting my hand in my wallet for a sub. i'll just let the account lapse while i play steam games until people get bored of wardecing me.


Risk averse asocial carebears have always threatened mass unsubs whenever AFK isk grinding has been threatened with nerfs in any way. So far in EVE, all attempts to cater to this "PVP-intolerant" demographic by releasing risk-free PvE expansions has resulted in lowered subscriptions and are considered failures, and everything implemented that impeded AFK isk farming has not had mass unsubs. So I weigh your unsub threat with that knowledge in mind.

Here's some tips you could do so you could continue your legalized RMT 'playstyle' that's allegedly worth compromising the game for
- make friends
- fight back
- hire protection
- pay ransom
- move to a place where wardecs have no effect

So really NPC corps could be removed. If 'no risk-free, cost-free security blanket' would make you stop playing EVE, well I'm afraid you were never really playing it to begin with.
Hannah Flex
#67 - 2013-02-07 16:24:44 UTC
If only there was farmable instanced content that awarded an alternate currency which we could use to purchase the most desirable items, then we would have true MMO equality, everyone would pay their 'fair share' and it would attract tons of casuals and hardcores alike! Clearly a recipe for success.

Make it so CCP, level the playing field and make access for one-man tax shelter corps to the things that large alliance and power blocs have to band together to achieve.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#68 - 2013-02-07 16:28:10 UTC
Oh no! I'm a NPC Alt.... I forgot I moved myself into the NPC corp xD

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Kate stark
#69 - 2013-02-07 16:30:26 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Risk averse asocial carebears have always threatened mass unsubs whenever AFK isk grinding has been threatened with nerfs in any way. So far in EVE, all attempts to cater to this "PVP-intolerant" demographic by releasing risk-free PvE expansions has resulted in lowered subscriptions and are considered failures, and everything implemented that impeded AFK isk farming has not had mass unsubs. So I weight your unsub threat with that knowledge in mind.

Here's some tips you could do so you could continue your legalized RMT 'playstyle' that's allegedly worth compromising the game for
- make friends
- fight back
- move to a place where wardecs have no effect


i fail to see how it compromises the game so much to begin with, but never the less. let's address your points.

friends. uh, what? just, what. how does the number of friends i have influence this in any way?

fight back. that's still time i'm not making isk, and losses are still losses. i may as well not undock and save the isk losses on combat ships since either way, fighting or docked i'm still making 0 isk.

move to 0.0. (yes i'm making an assumption there, it is the correct assumption though right?) i could do that. and then i'd still make less isk docking up every time a neutral rolled in to the system, then see the "fight back" section of the argument.

all removing npc corps will do is force me to not really play the game and do something else instead. not entirely sure how any one benefits from that, least of all me.

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#70 - 2013-02-07 16:32:12 UTC
Kate stark wrote:

i fail to see how it compromises the game so much to begin with

thats because you don't play it

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Kate stark
#71 - 2013-02-07 16:34:44 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Kate stark wrote:

i fail to see how it compromises the game so much to begin with

thats because you don't play it

no, that's because i don't play it your way.

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CCP Gargant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#72 - 2013-02-07 16:46:41 UTC
I cleaned this thread up somewhat. Please try and stay on topic and avoid bad manner, thank you very much.

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Provence Tristram
Doomheim
#73 - 2013-02-07 16:51:11 UTC
The simple, Gods to honest is truth is that you can't have it both ways. You can have a game where everyone is forcibly made equal, like in WoW, and it will have zero sandbox elements. Or you can have a sandbox game, and the cream will naturally rise to the top, leaving a few haves dominating many, many more have-nots.

I prefer the latter scenario because it mimics the real world. You might not like it, but a lot of us aren't playing this game to experience a sense of equality.
ihcn
Life. Universe. Everything.
#74 - 2013-02-07 17:01:42 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Perhaps its time to quit the game as this will always happen.

can i have your stuff
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#75 - 2013-02-07 17:24:42 UTC
... waits quietly for the release of "T2 Tinfoil Hat" BPO... Roll

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#76 - 2013-02-07 17:27:54 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Kate stark wrote:

i fail to see how it compromises the game so much to begin with

thats because you don't play it



Neither do you, the Hive plays you.....Lol


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Kate stark
#77 - 2013-02-07 17:33:48 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
... waits quietly for the release of "T2 Tinfoil Hat" BPO... Roll



got your lottery ticket ready?

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RAP ACTION HERO
#78 - 2013-02-07 17:34:57 UTC
So funny coming from a one man alliance.

vitoc erryday
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#79 - 2013-02-07 17:36:21 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:

Neither do you, the Hive plays you.....Lol



im the goonswarm cfo, worthless nobody

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#80 - 2013-02-07 17:40:44 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Quote "Word is on the street that the Honey Badger Coalition banded up with the N3 duders among other Neodymium holders and took control of most of the nullsec/low-sec Neodymium "

Yet again all the big alliances, take everything in eve and nothing anyone can ever do. Perhaps its time to quit the game as this will always happen. No one will ever get anything other than these. so forget all other alliances and low sec/high sec people.

i am sick and tired paying for a game, where everything and anything in eve is taken by these power blocs.

So now they make even more billions on top of the tech for doing sweet fa

way to go and continue to alienate the rest of player base...when will it ever stop



This is news? They started taking the other moons over a year ago, when CCP starting talking about doing something to nerf Tech. I would think by now they are just finishing up taking any important moons they missed.

Risk free pvp ftw?

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