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Moons - just when will ccp do anything

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#21 - 2013-02-07 15:20:09 UTC
LowSec Pirates Ftw PTwisted

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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#22 - 2013-02-07 15:21:51 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
You should make a power bloc and take it from them.


I was waiting for that... surprise surprise...


By that, I am assuming you are implying that I am the alt of someone in a power bloc. That would be incorrect! I am a low-sec pirate main. I just understand how the game works, whereas you do not.

If you want something, you have to take it, and fight for it. If you cannot do that, then someone will take it before you, or take it FROM you if you cannot defend it.

Unless you have a different idea of how this game works than I do, in which case I am all ears.


Ok so please tell me how you are supposed to fight 20000+ players? I mean i would love to know. This is why cartels are set up. Because people do not want to fight over them.
I mean eve the might of Nulli/Nc/Evoke/IRC/Black Legion who are mighty pvp alliances couldnt keep the tech from cfc, so please happy to listen to your suggestions.
See you have no idea how the game works when it comes to moons at all or the politics around it. So i wont waste my time explaining it.


Get 30,000 players. Oh, you don't want to put in the effort of doing that? Well, that's a shame because someone put in the effort to put together 20,000 players.

Please propose how else this should be handled. You want CCP to do something? What are they going to do? Say "You have too many friends" and put in game mechanics to keep big groups (where big is defined as 'Bigger than you') from working together? What game mechanics should they put in in order to actively stop people from working together?
Theresa Lamont
Rogue Fleet
#23 - 2013-02-07 15:21:57 UTC
What if moon mining would go from "passive" to "active"?
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-02-07 15:24:03 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
You should make a power bloc and take it from them.


I was waiting for that... surprise surprise...


Waiting for what? The Gallente faction warfare didn't go from holding zero system a couple years ago to holding all the systems a while back by sitting on our hands waiting.

You have to do something if you expect results.

Get'r done.


FW is not quite the same is it? and with respect Caldari have been terrible. Wasnt exactly hard was it.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#25 - 2013-02-07 15:24:12 UTC
Theresa Lamont wrote:
What if moon mining would go from "passive" to "active"?


I don't think ANYONE is against this idea.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#26 - 2013-02-07 15:24:45 UTC
Put the moon harvesters and silos out of the pos bubble, make the harvester disable once it reaches structure (and then reinforce it), make the silo hackable once it reaches structure (and then reinforce it). Reinforced means it can't be popped unless the tower is popped first. Hacked silos can be accessed and all content can be hauled off.

Now you can rob the moons for their goo without having to pop the pos (and the inevitable blob in your face). All you have to do is manage to get a hauler to the silos without the pos guns popping it.

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Name Lips
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-02-07 15:26:32 UTC
I'm actually curious what the OP is wanting to happen.

So what WOULD make him happy? Specifically?
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-02-07 15:27:06 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Put the moon harvesters and silos out of the pos bubble, make the harvester disable once it reaches structure (and then reinforce it), make the silo hackable once it reaches structure (and then reinforce it). Reinforced means it can't be popped unless the tower is popped first. Hacked silos can be accessed and all content can be hauled off.

Now you can rob the moons for their goo without having to pop the pos (and the inevitable blob in your face). All you have to do is manage to get a hauler to the silos without the pos guns popping it.


At least someone has managed to come up with some suggestion.
Myrissa Kistel
Planetary Logistics
#29 - 2013-02-07 15:29:41 UTC
I'll say it again, in 6 months I am predicting a huge war between and within these powerblocs. Only a few within those blocs get to reap the rewards of the moons. How long do you think Goon and TEST pilots will last with no real fights?
Soon those guys will start unsubbing cause they get bored. Why should Titan pilot keep his subscription when they aren't using it? Sure the bloc can give him plex but do they really want to keep paying that expense so that account goes dormant. Soon, enough go dormant that they can't keep the thing together, all hell breaks loose and it is war.

Regions and stations are lost and these Subs are reactivated to start the whole process of taking it over again. Only this time there are new grudges and fractures to fix. New enemies to face.

Eve is is in a quiet period right now. It won't stay that way forever.
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-02-07 15:32:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr R4nd0m
Myrissa Kistel wrote:
I'll say it again, in 6 months I am predicting a huge war between and within these powerblocs. Only a few within those blocs get to reap the rewards of the moons. How long do you think Goon and TEST pilots will last with no real fights?
Soon those guys will start unsubbing cause they get bored. Why should Titan pilot keep his subscription when they aren't using it? Sure the bloc can give him plex but do they really want to keep paying that expense so that account goes dormant. Soon, enough go dormant that they can't keep the thing together, all hell breaks loose and it is war.

Regions and stations are lost and these Subs are reactivated to start the whole process of taking it over again. Only this time there are new grudges and fractures to fix. New enemies to face.

Eve is is in a quiet period right now. It won't stay that way forever.


But it will still be the same even if different people hold it. Infact CFC or HBC may win, but that only makes it worse as that means one of those will control even more

and why should everyone else have to grind and get nothing for actually doing work, whilst these blocs just stick up a pos and make billions for doing nothing. thats not right. Everything should be 'active' income not passive and not at this magnitude.
Kate stark
#31 - 2013-02-07 15:32:57 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Yet again all the big alliances, take everything in eve and nothing anyone can ever do.

[snip]

i am sick and tired paying for a game, where everything and anything in eve is taken by these power blocs.


surely the whole alchemy thing a while back is what "anyone can ever do"

if you don't like them owning it, take it off them.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2013-02-07 15:33:30 UTC
lawl you actually believed a thing montolio said

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-02-07 15:34:05 UTC
The only real change that could come about to loosen the grip big powerblocs have on moon goo is to make the resources deplete and respawn like every other resource in the game. Ring mining anyone? Anyone? *crickets*

Yeah that's what I thought.

Don't ban me, bro!
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#34 - 2013-02-07 15:35:40 UTC
posting in a stealth "eve is dying thread" :-P

on a more serius note, you could always go and try do something about it if your that unhappy with it, it would be alot more contructive than run to the forums
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-02-07 15:35:41 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
The only real change that could come about to loosen the grip big powerblocs have on moon goo is to make the resources deplete and respawn like every other resource in the game. Ring mining anyone? Anyone? *crickets*

Yeah that's what I thought.



Bored of hearing it, make it happen already and remove moon gold.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#36 - 2013-02-07 15:36:34 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
The only real change that could come about to loosen the grip big powerblocs have on moon goo is to make the resources deplete and respawn like every other resource in the game. Ring mining anyone? Anyone? *crickets*

Yeah that's what I thought.


Thing is, people don't want the guaranteed ISK of moon goo to go away, they want to control it.

Hence, so little support for any idea that would compromise moon goo profitability.

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Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#37 - 2013-02-07 15:36:36 UTC
ITTigerClawIK wrote:
posting in a stealth "eve is dying thread" :-P

on a more serius note, you could always go and try do something about it if your that unhappy with it, it would be alot more contructive than run to the forums



like? oh that get more ppl chestnut, oh please not again.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2013-02-07 15:37:37 UTC
ITTigerClawIK wrote:
posting in a stealth "eve is dying thread" :-P

on a more serius note, you could always go and try do something about it if your that unhappy with it, it would be alot more contructive than run to the forums

that would require skills, friends, or some semblance of a will to power

he'll stick to the whining for handouts

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#39 - 2013-02-07 15:38:34 UTC
Hey goonies can I haz some Isk... I like playing Blink too much :D

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2013-02-07 15:41:09 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Hey goonies can I haz some Isk... I like playing Blink too much :D


just convo random people looking for a corp, offer to sponsor them into goonswarm, and charge the standard 500m deposit

you'd think it wouldn't work because you're not in goonswarm but you severely overestimate the intelligence of eve players

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.