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Unit CA108AF
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#201 - 2013-02-06 21:37:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Unit CA108AF
Tallian Saotome wrote:

Out of curiousity, what is 'My kind'?

I find myself saying this quite frequently lately, you might want to actually know something about me other than my in-game political views before you accuse me of being a certain 'kind', since I am, myself, a carebear who avoids PVP. I am, by nature, pacifistic, and only fight when I have to.

Except when I get caught, then I do the smart thing and show my teeth, instead of whining about the mean ol' griefers.


I will apply that statement to you whenever I please, as I do not feel nor care to research who you are. I see what you say and do here and now, and judge you. And I will continue to judge you and label you until such time that you are sensible.

I don't care if you PvP, or avoid PvP, carebear, pirate, or whatever. Do you understand that?

I do not care.

I care only that people condone extreme griefing and tear collection. For that, I will judge you and others and call you out for what you are.

Closet sociopaths who need removed from Eve.

EDIT: And in case any of you 'people' would like to once again misconstrue my words, allow me to REITERATE for those of you with literacy issues that I am not saying to ban ganking.

We need the gankers, the scammers, the PvPers, the Blobbers, the miners, the carebears, we need every single niche to make this glorious game what it is and to ensure it's continue survival.

What we do NOT need are thugs and bullies who take joy in inflicting so much pain on a person mentally, then shunting responsibility for their own actions behind excuses such as "it's just a game."

It's like the bully who punches the quiet kid, and when the quiet kid punches the bully back and gets caught by the teacher, the bully tries to say "I dunno he started it."

Guess what? I'm the third kid in the hall saying that YOU'RE the one who started it. Deal with it.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#202 - 2013-02-06 21:42:40 UTC
Valderath wrote:

What is my kind.. yet you blanket statement anyone who disagrees with you as 'crazies'.. get some logic.


Unit CA108AF wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:

Out of curiousity, what is 'My kind'?

I find myself saying this quite frequently lately, you might want to actually know something about me other than my in-game political views before you accuse me of being a certain 'kind', since I am, myself, a carebear who avoids PVP. I am, by nature, pacifistic, and only fight when I have to.

Except when I get caught, then I do the smart thing and show my teeth, instead of whining about the mean ol' griefers.


I will apply that statement to you whenever I please, as I do not feel nor care to research who you are. I see what you say and do here and now, and judge you. And I will continue to judge you and label you until such time that you are sensible.

I don't care if you PvP, or avoid PvP, carebear, pirate, or whatever. Do you understand that?

I do not care.

I care only that people condone extreme griefing and tear collection. For that, I will judge you and others and call you out for what you are.

Closet sociopaths who need removed from Eve.


This is sane?

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#203 - 2013-02-07 00:31:42 UTC
This thread delivers, the only thing it's missing is Max Doobie chiming in and pouring on some more "you're nasty on the internet therefore you're nasty in real life" comments.

It's certainly attracting people of that ilk. This is Eve, some of us roleplay nasty people, deal with it.

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Vegine
Sphere Foundation
#204 - 2013-02-07 01:26:59 UTC
Pretty Pale wrote:
Really? Judging by your previous posts, I find that rather difficult to believe.


a preliminary altopsy shows this is highly likely just an altposting with hint of al palepone mixed in :P


and yes lets do a quick lil summary to lay down some groundwork before this gets out of hand.
- First of all , there are two parties involved in this whole fiasco. There's that guy that refuse to discern an online game from reality, but what about YOU?

-Pretty much all of us agree griefplay is an inherent unique and interesting part of this game. Main thing we are arguing about is THE EXTENT in which to take it to. In this case the factual result is what some of us base our arguments on. This factual result in reality is undeniable. Do you understand the implications behind it? Most of ya yet still ends up falling back on this or that argument that suit yourselves while trying to ignore it.

-Just cuz some or most of us are able to get in the hang of this grief play doesnt mean EVERYONE WILL. If you are constantly involved in this one way or another eventually you'll hit a hard rock that will give you a lil pulp. Never thought you would before? Now you know.

- This whole take it to reality thing while is quiet out of ordinary and silly, its not as serious in a cold-observer's eyes. Quick scan at the log shows he was trying to engage with you guys in his own way but was totally ignored and he prob felt this rage anyone could have felt if it were done to him, except in this case a lil complication that YOU guys felt this is just a game and he SHOULDNT give a damn . Seriously, this can be easily resolved by just contact him and say "hey, feeling better now?" etc without trying to RP more macho spaceman. The fact you guys are inept, incapable or inexperienced to have persued this easy way out shows how mature you really are. And threat of contacting police-or even suing him is silly gross overraction to an already silly situation, not to mention a complete waste of public resources to handle this silly lil thing you helped cooked out but are incapable of handling the results yourselves.

Real men know how to clean up their own mess, and even more manly man knows to use the best way that costs the least to himself, let alone others. Theres that person suggesting suing in this thread...well to say the least that shows his complete lack of perspective on this rather easily solvable issue, and he continue to further shows his lack of sense of public responsibility by suggesting wasting public resources over this lil stunt. Its also not far fetched to say he probably let this online griefing roleplay thing getting too much into his head, (as in, persue the most costly way that'll further infuriate that person instead of consider easy options to end the mess) and should serve as a lil wake up call to you all.


That said, I did manage to enjoy the trash talk and trolling thats quiet unique to this section of the forums. Hope we all had fun or learnt what we could :)

Have fun and be safe. Both in game and in rl.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#205 - 2013-02-07 03:13:08 UTC
Most hilarious thing about this whole thread at this point: the assumptions being made by my detractors. I didn't grief him. I didn't bully him. I barely even spoke to him. I had nothing to do with what happened to him, and when he came after my irl I largely ignored it until he involved other people in his crazy. My involvement with the police was limited to me seeking counsel from a friend in the local PD--any other actions I suggested in this thread were said for the benefit of Theory666 so that he understood where his actions were going.

This has already become just another part of our corporate lore, so far as I'm concerned.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#206 - 2013-02-07 04:12:50 UTC
Actually for me this is the most hilarious thing about this whole thread.
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
This entire thread is beginning to give me the opinion that Eve's bad guys are among the better human beings playing the game.


I think my previous post nailed it. Everyone should reread it.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#207 - 2013-02-07 06:10:06 UTC
AkJon Ferguson wrote:
Actually for me this is the most hilarious thing about this whole thread.
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
This entire thread is beginning to give me the opinion that Eve's bad guys are among the better human beings playing the game.


I think my previous post nailed it. Everyone should reread it.

I've always viewed my bad guy personas as an outlet for exploring behavior in a virtual world that I never would in real life. Also, in a sandbox game setting aside conventional morals and ethics opens up a LOT of gameplay potential. The whole point of a sandbox is that it has fewer limitations; being bad simply removes self-imposed restrictions that limit you where the game itself does not.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#208 - 2013-02-07 08:49:07 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
I have locked this thread as the past several pages posts are simply trolling and personal attacks. If the entirety of your post is just calling someone a moron or crazy, then do not post it. Dragging real life into things is also not acceptable. And just because someone else starts with trolling and personal attacks does not give you free reign to do the same thing back to them.

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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#209 - 2013-02-08 08:23:28 UTC
At the request of the original poster, he wished to let everyone know that the individual in question personally apologized for his behavior and the OP wished the community to be aware of that fact.

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