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Knorkor
Ministry of Silly Walk
#1 - 2013-02-07 01:40:47 UTC
Seriously, give it 200 m3 more.
We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there.
I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets.
I need those crystals around.
200 m3 more won't break anything.
Thanks.
Rengerel en Distel
#2 - 2013-02-07 02:27:07 UTC
get some from your orca support?

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#3 - 2013-02-07 03:06:09 UTC
Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Knorkor
Ministry of Silly Walk
#4 - 2013-02-07 05:20:31 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC.

Why do you assume there is a fleet all the time?
There is not.
I still use a Hulk.
Mackinaw has 100m3 more and can have all mining crystals in cargo.
There is no reason for the Hulk not having enough cargo for that.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#5 - 2013-02-07 05:45:04 UTC
Knorkor wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC.

Why do you assume there is a fleet all the time?
There is not.
I still use a Hulk.
Mackinaw has 100m3 more and can have all mining crystals in cargo.
There is no reason for the Hulk not having enough cargo for that.


The Hulk is designed for mining with Hauler Support.
The Mackinaw is designed for solo mining.

You are using a hammer to put a screw into a 2x4 and complaining that it is hard.

Anchor a GSC.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Knorkor
Ministry of Silly Walk
#6 - 2013-02-07 05:47:19 UTC
It's not hard, it is annoying.
That is all.
There is no difference in yield or anything.
All I do right now is dock up and get different crystals. Because that is faster than slowboating to a GSC and risk getting killed because I have not been aligned.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#7 - 2013-02-07 05:50:24 UTC
Then maybe this fit is for you.

I'll repeat. You are using a Hammer to drive a Screw into a 2x4 and complaining that it doesn't work well.

[Hulk, EHRMEGERD Crystals]

Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Medium Cargohold Optimization II

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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2013-02-07 08:40:00 UTC
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TheSkeptic
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-02-07 08:50:57 UTC
Confirming Hulk cargo is fine

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#10 - 2013-02-07 10:16:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Knorkor wrote:
Seriously, give it 200 m3 more.
We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there.
I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets.
I need those crystals around.
200 m3 more won't break anything.
Thanks.

If you sell your Hulk, you could buy a Mackinaw or several Retrievers, and be much happier.

If it will help, you can contract the Hulk to me for 205m ISK, as that's the current Jita sell price and I could probably use another. Hisec only of course.

You might want to read the Dev Blog - CCP Tallest - Ship Balancing: Mining Barges, especially the section on cargo and the amount of crystals they can haul.

CCP Tallest wrote:
Covetor and Hulk are meant to be used in a group, so while they have the highest mining output, they also have the smallest ore bays. The reduction of the cargo holds does have an unfortunate side effect for miners; there is much less space for mining crystals. We alleviated this slightly by cutting the volume of mining crystals in half, but it is now something that miners have to plan for before they go mining.
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#11 - 2013-02-07 12:08:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Dasola
Knorkor wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Get them from your fleet support or anchor a GSC.

Why do you assume there is a fleet all the time?
There is not.
I still use a Hulk.
Mackinaw has 100m3 more and can have all mining crystals in cargo.
There is no reason for the Hulk not having enough cargo for that.



Then your doing it wrong. Hulk is clearly intended for fleet mining operations.
Mackinaw has larger cargobay, becouse its intended for solo mining.

Personally i think exhumers are fine as they are now, they have clear roles now, instead of hulk being end of all thigns...

btw, if you think solo mining with hulk is annoying? Try tech 2 invention & manufacturing thats annoying... 11 clicks to launch invention job remotely on pos.... Just wish i could hang few dev in space stations support beams ingame...

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Owen Dallencour
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-02-07 14:10:43 UTC
For what it's worth, have to agree -- while it would be nice to have, hulk cargo size is fine. As posted above by the dev, better planning.
Iosue
League of Gentlemen
The Initiative.
#13 - 2013-02-07 15:42:35 UTC
keep in mind, you don't really need a replacement crystals for all three lazers. i usually only keep one or two of each type. that's enough flexibility for my needs.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-02-07 21:28:28 UTC
Knorkor wrote:
Seriously, give it 200 m3 more.
We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there.
I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets.
I need those crystals around.
200 m3 more won't break anything.
Thanks.

350m3 allows you to hold 14 crystals plus the 3 you have fitted.

That gives you enough crystals for 5 ore types and 2 additional crystals. Or if you're in high sec 3 crystals for each ore type
and 5 additional crystals for your main ore. Or 3 crystals for each ore type with 1 additional crystal for each and 2 crystals for you main ore.

Seriously you need more then that? You're planning on mining 10+ hours without stopping in a station? Or if you're mining with an orca the orca cant give you access to some?

Well then fit a medium cargohold optimization I and gain an additional 50m3. Or fit 2 and hold 4 or 5 more crystals.

There are so many options available to you, adapt and get used to it.
Kate stark
#15 - 2013-02-07 21:50:41 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:
Knorkor wrote:
Seriously, give it 200 m3 more.
We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there.
I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets.
I need those crystals around.
200 m3 more won't break anything.
Thanks.

350m3 allows you to hold 14 crystals plus the 3 you have fitted.

That gives you enough crystals for 5 ore types and 2 additional crystals. Or if you're in high sec 3 crystals for each ore type
and 5 additional crystals for your main ore. Or 3 crystals for each ore type with 1 additional crystal for each and 2 crystals for you main ore.

Seriously you need more then that? You're planning on mining 10+ hours without stopping in a station? Or if you're mining with an orca the orca cant give you access to some?

Well then fit a medium cargohold optimization I and gain an additional 50m3. Or fit 2 and hold 4 or 5 more crystals.

There are so many options available to you, adapt and get used to it.


actually it's 13, or you won't be able to swap crystals.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Rengerel en Distel
#16 - 2013-02-07 22:25:54 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
Styth spiting wrote:
Knorkor wrote:
Seriously, give it 200 m3 more.
We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there.
I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets.
I need those crystals around.
200 m3 more won't break anything.
Thanks.

350m3 allows you to hold 14 crystals plus the 3 you have fitted.

That gives you enough crystals for 5 ore types and 2 additional crystals. Or if you're in high sec 3 crystals for each ore type
and 5 additional crystals for your main ore. Or 3 crystals for each ore type with 1 additional crystal for each and 2 crystals for you main ore.

Seriously you need more then that? You're planning on mining 10+ hours without stopping in a station? Or if you're mining with an orca the orca cant give you access to some?

Well then fit a medium cargohold optimization I and gain an additional 50m3. Or fit 2 and hold 4 or 5 more crystals.

There are so many options available to you, adapt and get used to it.


actually it's 13, or you won't be able to swap crystals.

because it'd be impossible to put a crystal in the jet can he's obviously using already, or jettison one crystal to switch?

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Kate stark
#17 - 2013-02-07 22:53:35 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
Styth spiting wrote:
Knorkor wrote:
Seriously, give it 200 m3 more.
We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there.
I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets.
I need those crystals around.
200 m3 more won't break anything.
Thanks.

350m3 allows you to hold 14 crystals plus the 3 you have fitted.

That gives you enough crystals for 5 ore types and 2 additional crystals. Or if you're in high sec 3 crystals for each ore type
and 5 additional crystals for your main ore. Or 3 crystals for each ore type with 1 additional crystal for each and 2 crystals for you main ore.

Seriously you need more then that? You're planning on mining 10+ hours without stopping in a station? Or if you're mining with an orca the orca cant give you access to some?

Well then fit a medium cargohold optimization I and gain an additional 50m3. Or fit 2 and hold 4 or 5 more crystals.

There are so many options available to you, adapt and get used to it.


actually it's 13, or you won't be able to swap crystals.

because it'd be impossible to put a crystal in the jet can he's obviously using already, or jettison one crystal to switch?


you shouldn't have to have empty space to swap a crystal anyway, it's bad coding on CCP's part.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-02-07 23:49:21 UTC
Knorkor wrote:
Seriously, give it 200 m3 more.
We need at least be able to have enough different mining crystals in there.
I tend to concentrate on one ore, while mining a big variety into jets.
I need those crystals around.
200 m3 more won't break anything.
Thanks.


I never mine without one, or two, Orcas, but . . . .

Have you considered putting spare crystals in a GSC?
Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#19 - 2013-02-08 03:21:47 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Then maybe this fit is for you.

I'll repeat. You are using a Hammer to drive a Screw into a 2x4 and complaining that it doesn't work well.

[Hulk, EHRMEGERD Crystals]

Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Medium Cargohold Optimization II


God that fit asking to be ganked. Seriously you need Invulnablity Feild or two, and a survey scanner. Maybe even fit a shield booster in case of emergency. And no shield rigs? You're more defenseless than a new born baby.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
Knorkor
Ministry of Silly Walk
#20 - 2013-02-08 03:24:15 UTC
Intar Medris wrote:


God that fit asking to be ganked. Seriously you need Invulnablity Feild or two, and a survey scanner. Maybe even fit a shield booster in case of emergency. And no shield rigs? You're more defenseless than a new born baby.

Yup, that is why I would not use it.
I use a tank fit, especially since I am in 0.0.
But does not matter, I bought a macki and it can hold all the crystals I need while only losing about 150m3 yield per minute.
To be honest, I still want that change since I see no reason why the mack should be able to carry a wide variety of crystals while the Hulk is not.
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