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Cynthia Gallente.
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Anslo
Scope Works
#21 - 2013-02-06 17:41:02 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
What, she's just a cannibal? You made a thread just because someone's a cannibal?

Even if I had a conversation with her about eating human beings right now she wouldn't be the craziest human being I've talked to in the last six hours.


Andreus you always make me laugh man. Good to see you around.

But Cynthia has issues, a lot of them. Leave her alone, she coping through em and in time, she'll be hunky dory. Until then, stop trying to point her out for abuse. You got a problem with her aside from whatever the hell this thinly veiled attempt at slander is? Come out and say it.

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Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
#22 - 2013-02-06 17:52:41 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:

3: You're in fracking Nation. Everything you say is psychotic.


This statement is false.


No, really. I can just imagine Tiberious praising a certain food for its fine test and Pilot Vea flipping out of her chair to fall down a secret escape shaft while shouting at the top of her lungs, "CURSE YOU TIBERIOUS! YOUR TASTE IN FOOD IS PSYCHOTIC!".

Regardless of banners and loyalties, it is each and every individual statement or action made which must be evaluated for its merit. This applies to the subject of this thread, Pilot Gallente. Though I am no expert, I make the evaluation of her statement as being "dark and edgy".

I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.

Destination Unreachable: the worst Wspace blog ever
Lasairiona
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-02-07 01:05:24 UTC
I've always found Cynthia a little odd, but mostly harmless. I'm sure it was a joke.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#24 - 2013-02-07 01:23:47 UTC
... Seriously? How is this even a thread?

Katrina Oniseki
Tannim Greene
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-02-07 16:44:17 UTC
Wonder if crew goes good with white or red wine?......Smile

Take the stairs. Take the stairs. For God's sake, take the stairs!!
Erik Kaassan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-02-08 17:22:56 UTC
Salena Ashera wrote:
How about her admission to mass murder?


You act as if mass-murdering Capsuleers are something new. How many battleships have you blown up in your career? Hundreds? Consider that battleships without a Capsuleer pilot have on average 4000-7000 crew members. The average rate of survival is placed at about 45% of the standing crew. The push of one button ends about 1950 to 3150 lives. And on a single attack there can be maybe 10 or more battleships. Congratulations: You have just achieved a murder rate any psychotic serial killer planetside could only dream of.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#27 - 2013-02-08 17:36:23 UTC
Erik Kaassan wrote:
Salena Ashera wrote:
How about her admission to mass murder?


You act as if mass-murdering Capsuleers are something new. How many battleships have you blown up in your career? Hundreds? Consider that battleships without a Capsuleer pilot have on average 4000-7000 crew members. The average rate of survival is placed at about 45% of the standing crew. The push of one button ends about 1950 to 3150 lives. And on a single attack there can be maybe 10 or more battleships. Congratulations: You have just achieved a murder rate any psychotic serial killer planetside could only dream of.


Are you conflating defensive security contracts with sociopathy for a reason, sir? Or is it simply hyperbole in order to 'score points' and demonstrate superior ethical mores?
Salena Ashera
#28 - 2013-02-09 02:30:50 UTC
You seem to think a battleship has a titans crew. You may want to check the crew guidlines because here are about 200 to 550 people on a battleship.

I kill criminal elements in strike forces. These criminals are in open acts of terrorism and violence and breaking republic laws in serious ways. In the defense of my republic I will kill the small fleets that choose to attack my home.

((OOC note, for the amount and type of rats to be correct in missions and asteroid belts, it would extinguish the population of new Eden fairly quickly, never mind after 10 years of our ratting and missioning.))

Salena Ashera; Shandian Lu clan Mystic.
Erik Kaassan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-02-10 20:53:49 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Erik Kaassan wrote:
Salena Ashera wrote:
How about her admission to mass murder?


You act as if mass-murdering Capsuleers are something new. How many battleships have you blown up in your career? Hundreds? Consider that battleships without a Capsuleer pilot have on average 4000-7000 crew members. The average rate of survival is placed at about 45% of the standing crew. The push of one button ends about 1950 to 3150 lives. And on a single attack there can be maybe 10 or more battleships. Congratulations: You have just achieved a murder rate any psychotic serial killer planetside could only dream of.


Are you conflating defensive security contracts with sociopathy for a reason, sir? Or is it simply hyperbole in order to 'score points' and demonstrate superior ethical mores?



I am simply making a point. We kill more people in our careers than we could fathom. I'm not trying to demonstrate 'superior ethical mores', quite the opposite in fact. Capsuleers have no conscience about the lives that we end so why should this 'admission to mass murder' even bother us?
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#30 - 2013-02-10 22:15:07 UTC
Erik Kaassan wrote:
I am simply making a point. We kill more people in our careers than we could fathom. I'm not trying to demonstrate 'superior ethical mores', quite the opposite in fact. Capsuleers have no conscience about the lives that we end so why should this 'admission to mass murder' even bother us?


Your conflation is "I have no conscience about the lives that we end, so therefore no Capsuleer has a conscience about the lives that we end."
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-02-10 23:25:58 UTC
Salena Ashera wrote:
You seem to think a battleship has a titans crew. You may want to check the crew guidlines because here are about 200 to 550 people on a battleship.

I kill criminal elements in strike forces. These criminals are in open acts of terrorism and violence and breaking republic laws in serious ways. In the defense of my republic I will kill the small fleets that choose to attack my home.

((OOC note, for the amount and type of rats to be correct in missions and asteroid belts, it would extinguish the population of new Eden fairly quickly, never mind after 10 years of our ratting and missioning.))


That's the minimum number to get it to undock. A full staffed battleship, without a capsuleer controlling it would be in the thousands.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#32 - 2013-02-11 05:11:26 UTC
Erik Kaassan wrote:
Capsuleers have no conscience about the lives that we end so why should this 'admission to mass murder' even bother us?


Quite the opposite. Love for fellow Humanity is the core motivation of me and my people. Maybe we should sit down one day at The Shard Restaurant over a small meal and discuss things. It's in high security space so I assure you you have nothing to worry about from me. I hear Guthris has the most amazing muffins.
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#33 - 2013-02-11 13:04:20 UTC
In all fairness, she's probably not the only one.

wumbo
Erik Kaassan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-02-13 04:38:06 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Erik Kaassan wrote:
I am simply making a point. We kill more people in our careers than we could fathom. I'm not trying to demonstrate 'superior ethical mores', quite the opposite in fact. Capsuleers have no conscience about the lives that we end so why should this 'admission to mass murder' even bother us?


Your conflation is "I have no conscience about the lives that we end, so therefore no Capsuleer has a conscience about the lives that we end."


But it's true isn't it? Tell me with perfect honesty that you have considered how many lives you potentially end every time you pull the trigger on your ships weapons. You can't because you don't. Its just how we do our job. The tech makes us cold and rational machines that are unafraid of death. The way we win is being colder and more rational than the other man commanding his ship that made the mistake of challenging us.

I know that's harsh and cynical but how else would you interpret the world around us?
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#35 - 2013-02-13 05:37:10 UTC
Erik Kaassan wrote:
Scherezad wrote:
Erik Kaassan wrote:
I am simply making a point. We kill more people in our careers than we could fathom. I'm not trying to demonstrate 'superior ethical mores', quite the opposite in fact. Capsuleers have no conscience about the lives that we end so why should this 'admission to mass murder' even bother us?


Your conflation is "I have no conscience about the lives that we end, so therefore no Capsuleer has a conscience about the lives that we end."


But it's true isn't it? Tell me with perfect honesty that you have considered how many lives you potentially end every time you pull the trigger on your ships weapons. You can't because you don't. Its just how we do our job. The tech makes us cold and rational machines that are unafraid of death. The way we win is being colder and more rational than the other man commanding his ship that made the mistake of challenging us.

I know that's harsh and cynical but how else would you interpret the world around us?


One need not agonize over the death they cause with every strike of the charge, sir, to maintain a functioning conscience. Indeed, the conscience often activates afterwards, as guilt, and anxiety, and shame, and a great number of other things.

Such as false pride and moral equivocation.

These are coping mechanisms, sir.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-02-13 12:39:55 UTC
We kill for various reasons and give them different names; war, justice, duty, murder and so on.

It is not the act of killing that taints an individual, but the heart and mind of the individual before, during and after the act.

What separates us, one from another, is the regard we hold even for the lives we end; to realize that death is a solemn thing, regardless of the purpose behind it or the name we give it.

We whom have killed possess hands stained with blood. The choice we face is whether to honor the fallen and maintain that death is solemn or to bathe in the blood we shed and glorify its spilling.

~Malcolm Khross
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