EVE General Discussion

So after CCP is done rebalancing battleships and command ships ( http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73530 ) are carriers and dreadnoughts next?

Here are my opinions on the carriers/dreadnoughts.

Archon - Good for armor PvP
Chimera - Good for shield PvP?
Thanatos - Good for PvE/Decent for PvP
Nidhoggur - Not so Good

Revelation - Good (Low ammo usage)
Phoenix - Terrible
Moros - Great for tracking setups
Naglfar - Not so good

The lack of a tanking bonus seems to put Thanatos/Nidhoggur at a disadvatage, but the fighter damage bonus seems to make up for it on the thanatos.

Maybe capital missles are the problem with dreadnoughts. Split weapon systems seem to be a valid concern on the Naglfar.

Maybe some of the more experienced capital pilots have some insight as to whats good/bad with the carriers and dreadnoughts?

Moros.

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e: James sums it up quite eloquently in the post below. I was just here for cake.

Every dread is sub-par to the moros. even a moros pilot with not so great skills can out dps fully skilled naglfar (whats the plural to naglfar out of interest, naglfai?) And the revelation. The phoenix doesnt even compare to either, unless what you're shooting at has the signature radius of a small sun, or is incapable of movement it's useless, which is a shame because it's got great potential.

As for carriers. The Archon and chimera both have roles, they have something they're very good at and personally i see no issues with either, although cap managment vs shield boost can be a huge problem with shield caps that armour don't have to deal with. My issue with the other two carriers is that they lack a purpose or a role. The nid has the best rep out of all carriers but also one of the worst tanks, can't rep when it's dead. and the thanatos is some sort of out dated dps-carrier, for the amount they cost i'll just field a vindi if i need dps. The latter two these days are just glorified pos reps thanks to the mixed bonus.

Just my insight/moneys worth.

they are working as intended which is shooting super structures and other capitals

overall capitals should and always be a low priority on CCP schedule

Its probably worth pointing out that the Chimera is also pretty terrible, the Nidhoggur is actually a better shield Triage boat than it, the Thanny has a pretty useless bonus for a carrier and none of the carriers come anywhere near the Archon.

Also, the Rev is good, the Moros is probably a little OP.

Personally I would just like a Carrier model that...

- Actually looks alrge enough to carry other ships around
- Has a much hight text / poly map

which also begs the question.... shouldnt the Caps be up for V'3'ing next?

i mean cap pilots are the ones that are gunna be staring at there caps for the longest time, may as well give them somethng pretty to look at rather than the strethced textured monstrositys they are starting to look like compared to the rest of the game now... witht he exception of station interiors... they are in pretty desperate need of a new look.

Naglfarses precious.

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