Crime & Punishment

Sorry, Ally. I'll try to get murdered next time.

The giving of corp roles was arguably lame/douchey, but I can also see how it could be used as an additional enticement (to trick the victim into letting his guard down) so I consider it legitimate.

The tears were priceless. I don't grief or scam (I've tried suicide ganking twice, was successful once) but it's still funny to see grown men cry (like the 'this is my last post in this thread' guy, for another example.) EVE is a harsh game. When you **** up (and we all do) don't say a word. If you react emotionally you are merely compounding your error and victimizing yourself again.

The RL intimidation/harassment was totally unacceptable.

As to the separate issue of whether people who spend hundreds of hours a year being in-game sociopaths are likely sociopaths irl, I tend to agree with Unit CA. (You wouldn't spend the bulk of your free time making other people miserable if you didn't REALLY enjoy making other people miserable.) But this isn't the place to make that argument because it makes it look like you're trying to justify the rl harassment, and that behavior is inexcusable.

In-game actions should have in-game consequences.

I've gotten mad about video games before. My reaction? I walked away from them, calmed down, and plotted my revenge. That revenge has come in the form of infiltrations, ganks, wars...I once collapsed a 500-person alliance out of spite. But I did it in the game.



Some of my compatriots play for tears. I don't. They might confirm what I already know, but they are not my motivation.



Actually, The Skunkworks has helped quite a few people learn how to avoid the mistakes they made before. We give fitting advice, teach them to scout, whatever it was that cost them their ship. So why didn't we help Theory666? Because there are two types of victims in Eve Online:

1) "Oh god I lost my ship. I need to figure out why and not make that mistake again." These people sometimes will ask us questions. Other times we'll point out some mistake they made.

2) "Oh god I lost my ship. YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON AND I HATE YOU!" These people can't be taught. They think they should be able to play Eve however they want and not be bothered by the presence of others. We make no attempt to help these people.

Theory666 is the epitome of number 2. Not only did he think his loss was unavoidable, he then went out and lost another ship and blamed that on us as well. Then rather than look for a way to seek revenge in Eve, he took it to the real world.

eve is part of the real world , and just 'cause you are abide to play by the "dark" side of even apart from everything else doesnt obligate everyone else to do the same for your sake.

Face it, everything has risk (and if your instinctive reaction is still restricted to eve then maybe you dont have as much rl as you think). Inherently nutty people exists, and perfectly normal people can someimes goes nuts on most trivial of the issues. This is a surprise?

Be able to be "bad" is an interesting aspect this game can offer, but as times pass I've also noticed some people have grown entitled as in everyone else should just also abide to the same sets of limits they play with- ironically thats much the same as the very carebare they make fun of, just in a relative bigger scale than they could comprehend it seems. Lol

As for the griefing community's perspective its funny when the people they grief throws a fit , here's another perspective that I'll jam down your throat here in hope it can provoke some thoughts from you: You got into a real life situation and had to call the cops and everything because of an internet GAME??? LOL!

And the, of course, the guy "likes" the Skunkworks Facebook page which gave us all of his personal information in case the authorities are in need of it. O_o

This entire thread is beginning to give me the opinion that Eve's bad guys are among the better human beings playing the game. It's appalling how many of you online do-gooders are leaping to defend the actions of a person who took a game so seriously that he set out to harass them in real life AND INVOLVE OTHER PEOPLE IN HIS STUNTS.

No, I banned him from the page permanently. I didn't want him being able to grab any info on any other Skunks.

You realize that Floppy wasn't even involved in the incident right? He wasn't there, he was just involved in a later conversation.... do you people not have any reading comprehension?!

You realize that Floppy wasn't even involved in the incident right? He wasn't there, he was just involved in a later conversation.... do you people not have any reading comprehension?![/quote]


I read it thank you very much. Do you know pointing this out doesnt help his 'position' even one bit? He managed to get himself take the big boot even though he wasn't originally involved? LOL

I love this thread.